Seriously, think about it... why did they stop making it? they werent selling enough? -They were selling like crazy when they were being released.. People didnt like them? -Just look at this forum... As if Honda didnt **** us off enough by making Teg lights round, they had to stop making the lude.... Why did they stop making them... someone please answer!

 

Didn't sell enough of them man. Simple as that.

The market for the Prelude went in the tank.

I think they sold something like 20,000 Ludes a year, that's nothing compared to 400,000 Civic's...

I gotta admit Honda did some pretty balsy things with the Prelude, first the 4WS, then ATTS, damn I'll miss 'em.


[Modified by EpDarks, 5:13 AM 9/4/2002]

 

 

I feel your pain brother. But there are several reasons that all lead to one basic answer: Money.
1) Prelude had a unique chasis = expensive to build. Integra, civic, CR-V all shares one chasis = cost effectiveness; the prelude was not.
2) No economy version. Being the sporting enthusiasts that they are, Honda engineers designed the car to be a sports car, not an econobox like the integra. There were no cheap LS versions of the 5g lude like the integra with a wimpy engine.
3) Most Americans are shitty drivers. They'd rather have a machine do their gear switching for them. SS prelude = $24,500 Auto integra = under 20k (not positive, correct me if I'm wrong).

So you see, it all comes down to cash. What Honda should have done was have an LS prelude with a less expensive engine, regular auto tranny, no standard acoustic feedback, and I'm sure the price could have been very close to the 20k range.

Furthermore, I know I'll get flamed for this, but all those who spent $22,500 on GSRs should have forked over an extra grand and gotten a base prelude for $23,500: a real car. Sorry guys but even C&D said the lude is the best integra ever made.

So armharm, is anything I said making sense, because I can't even tell this late.

P.S. luders, back me up when the flaming begins.

 

i'm right behind u bro....

 

but atleast they make the s2000 now....so honda is not falling off, just maybe trying something different..and i drive a 97 sh...and love it to death but would much rather be driving a s2k

 

Yeah, but ludes will be back, perhaps RWD?

 

do u guys think it'll be back? i seriously doubt it..... what Honda was discontinued... then continued again? it saddens my heart deeply.... :::wipes tear from eye::::

 

I highly doubt it will be brought back. From what I've heard the Accord V6 Coupe is meant to appeal to the same group, therefore taking the Prelude's place.

 

yes, v6 accord coupe, 240 hp v6 6 speed manual tranny

thats your replacement

 

I think there will be another prelude w/ a different name too, but no the V6 Acc. 6spd.

 

I think they actually only sold 8000 Preludes in 2001.

 

You think the prelude is better than all Integras or just some. The GSR and the SH are a close comparision. The prelude may handle a little better and MAY me a little bit quicker, but thats about all. The Type R on the other hand is faster and handles just as well, if not better than the prelude. Car and Driver says a lot of things. They once said that the WRX is faster than the S4. If you believe that too, then I can see where you are coming from. LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE!

 

The type r is a totally diffrent animal. My statement pertains only LS,GS,GS-R. ITRs are definately more sport oriented than any prelude ever, but if honda ever did to the prelude what it did to the type r, just think: at 109hp/l, the lude's 2.2 would have 240hp, weigh 200lbs less, have a stiffer chasis (though no sunroof), and a much stiffer suspension. I guess the JDM type s sort of fits that description, but its not quite the same. Anyone agree?

 

Type S is very nice

 

u compare the prelude and gsr... and then switch it over to type-r? we is smart here in prelude land.... oh ****...lol

 

actually the CRV uses a chassis that is based on the civic but not the same. might use some of the same parts though. just like the odyessy, pilot, and mdx chassis are based on the accords but not the same.

and the civic si was discontinued and then revived. but i doubt we'll see a new lude anytime soon if ever. there is no market it for it and honda has too many competing models out now anyway. when a model stops making the sales it goes bye bye. look at the camaro/firebird and all the shitty mercury/lincoln/ford models that just went. even the chrysler prowler is no more. it all comes down to money.

 

i think(and hope)that they come out with another "prelude". it may not have the same name but honda did the same thing with the integra/RSX. if they release a NEW "prelude" just under a different name and with more performance i guarantee the sales would go up.

 

Btw, did you know that Honda sold more Insights than the Prelude in its last model year(just something i heard, not sure if its true)

But yes, The RSX and Civic Si will likely fill in for the Prelude, and the S2000 fills in as the Performance Flagship on Honda Brand.

Anyway, I agree that C&D says alot of things, and for the price of the GSR vs the Prelude base, I couldnt justify buying the GSR since its only 1000$ cheaper than the lude (GSRs are 800$can MORE than Base ludes in Canada in 2000 and 2001 where I live) BUT there are advantages going with the GSR...fuel economy, more sporty, more nimble, way better aftermarket optoins etc....SO, it worth it in some regards...just wanted to point that out.

As for the WRX being faster than S4, C&D comparison tested it and found that the the 0-60 was faster, but NOT the 1/4mile. (correct me if im wrong). So, you might be recalling your info from the WRX commercials when they used the C&D test to advertise...(you know the comercial that goes..."faster than S4, better handling, but there's one category which it ranked lower...price").

GSR vs Type SH vs ITR has been beaten to death so I wont comment on that.


[Modified by psychodog, 12:37 AM 9/5/2002]

 

Actually, I was referring to 0-60 time of the S4 and the WRX. There is no way in hell the WRX does 0-60 in 5.4 (as C&D claims. The S4 would be the WRX in 0-60 stock for stock, no questions asked.

 

 

Funny that Tegs are more popular where you guys live, over here there are 10 preludes to every integra on the road! (thats still not that many though!)

I think that honda planned to release a new prelude before they rereleased the integra (i have pictures of a 2002 JDM prelude somewhere, see if I can find them). When they finished with the type R however, they found that people preferred to go with the new purpose built sports car rather than the outdated 'luxury sports' car. (probably gonna get flamed for that one!)

That is at least the opinion down here. Our Type R's go for $38990 AUD, (to keep them cheaper than wrx's) whereas the base modle lude was going for $41990 AUD.
Most people here after a sports car go for the Type R.

I was hanging out for the day Honda built a Type R Lude, maybe with a V6 (similar setup to the skyline maybe?) I would have been the first with my name on the list!

 

Real quick, the s4 has 250 hp vs the wrx's 227, both stock. The s4 probably has 400-500lbs on the wrx seden. Seeing as they are both awd, and the wrx has a better hp/weight ratio than the s4, what's can't you believe?

Jared

 

ok, maybe you got your info from somewhere else, but i have a friend that works for Honda/Acura and he gets all kinds of inside info.... he knew about the 3.2CL 6-speed like 2 years ago, and has confirmed info that there will be RSX Type-Rs in 2003 as 2004 models. anyways, the info i heard from him was that the Accord V6 was going to have a 5 speed manual tranny, not a 6, maybe something new has come out, b/c he told me this months ago, sometime back in the winter i believe...

but back to the point in hand, if you ask me, they should re-release the Prelude in like 2004 as like a 25th limted edition anniversary or something.... perhaps with an S2K base powerplant and drivetrain, RWD, 6-speed, 240+ hp, who's with me on that one???

 

Listen crack monkey...Im done arguing with you. You are so wrong its not even funny. You may be one of the most disgraceful import drivers out there. Or should I say, one of the best Riceboy drivers. First off, if you knew anything about the WRX, they are overrated. Yeah, it has 227 horsepower. Do you know how many of them actually go to the wheels though? Most stock WRX's are between 170-175 whp. I dont know what the exact specs on the S4 are but, I know the car is throwing a lot more than 175 whp out. Plus the fact that the S4 is bi-turbo. Where is your arguement now tough guy?? LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE!