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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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haha, one right after another, damn crank pulley bolt. Still haven't gotten it off. Gonna try compressed air in a bit.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Definately step up the drive size before trying again. Borrow a heavy breaker bar from a parts store if you need to and heat it a little. If you have a balancer with rubber on it, only heat it very little or even not at all.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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lol indeed. Broke a couple things the other day gettin my motor out. down to one small *** extension
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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wow, time for tool upgrades
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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Cheap tools FTL.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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Yeah seriously. That's what I get for shopping at harbor freight hahaha.

Check this out, couldn't get a hold of an air wrench to I tried this setup to no avail:


Yeah I had, this setup AND the car was in fifth AND my dad was on the brakes!
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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Definitely in need of an air gun STAT!
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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To keep the pulley from turning when you are trying to loosen the bolt get a tool. I use the one below, mine is a Blue Point or Snap-on but looks the exact same, get a 1/2" drive breaker bar to use with the tool and let the handle rest on the bottom of the control arm so when you go to loosen the bolt the engine can't spin.

Before I had a lift I used similar setup I see in your pictures and this tool and it came loose. Get a good made 1/2" Breaker Bar, Extension combo to get the bolt loose or try and get your hands on a 3/4" drive. If you can get access to a good air compressor and a GOOD strong Air impact gun that should do the job as well. Good Luck Tool Below that I use.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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Thanks, I'll be renting an air gun tomorrow from a local tool store, but I only have a 90psi compressor (ClubCivic.com recommends 130psi) so if that doesn't work, I'll order that tool.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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Thanks, I'll be renting an air gun tomorrow from a local tool store, but I only have a 90psi compressor (ClubCivic.com recommends 130psi) so if that doesn't work, I'll order that tool.
Not meaning to put your hopes in the dumps and think negative but I doubt that 90psi is gonna do the trick. I have used 120psi plus compressors with decent air impact guns to no avail. I changed the Timing Belt/Waterpump on a 1982 Civic 1.3L few months ago and it uses a 17mm crank bolt instead of the 19mm. Heating the bolt with a propane torch(Don't let it get to hot, you don't want to deform the front main seal, etc.) and 120psi on the compressor took it off. The 19mm bolts seem to put up alot more of a fight. Good Luck though, I do hope it works.

EDIT: Make sure your Crankpully has the Octagon cutout in it for the tool to hold onto. I assume its a GSR(?) so it should have it if its the stock pulley but from that one picture its to dark for me to tell, a quick look and you will know though.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Yeah I kinda figured 90psi wouldn't work, but i thought it would be worth a try. And yes, it is hexagonal and it is a GSR. I'll see what I can come up with.
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 05:26 AM
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Yeah I kinda figured 90psi wouldn't work, but i thought it would be worth a try. And yes, it is hexagonal and it is a GSR. I'll see what I can come up with.
Its usually always worth a try . Sometimes you just get lucky
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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get a sears or better 1/2 breaker bar with a short extension and the socket that is black get a 2-5 feet rigid pipe and slide over the bar for leverage put a jack stand under the head/extension to counter the force so it wont move then take the starter out and lock the flywheel in place with 1 or two crow bars then walla loose crank bolt try to bounce with even preasusre till it loosens up that bolt is a bicth and not every1 can afford top notch tools
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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What I did was put all the pressure I could on the bolt, and while I did that I wacked the breaker bar with a rubber mallot. The mallot ended up breaking the bolt loose after a coulple hits.
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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Using the drivetrain to to keep the bolt from moving is a very bad idea. It absorbs some of the force you use to crack the bolt loose and risks major damage. When you don't have the tool to hold the balancer in place, you can use a large screwdriver wedged into the teeth on the flywheel via the flywheel inspection cover.
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Default Re: So, I tried changing my timing belt today: Lol inside.

Originally Posted by madblkscientist
get a sears or better 1/2 breaker bar with a short extension and the socket that is black get a 2-5 feet rigid pipe and slide over the bar for leverage put a jack stand under the head/extension to counter the force so it wont move then take the starter out and lock the flywheel in place with 1 or two crow bars then walla loose crank bolt try to bounce with even preasusre till it loosens up that bolt is a bicth and not every1 can afford top notch tools

Top notch tools? You can get that tool I listed for like $25 bucks, I'm poor as hell but wouldn't call that a top notch tool for that price, however it does do a "top notch" job keeping the pulley from spinning as you loosen the bolt.
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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Default Re: So, I tried changing my timing belt today: Lol inside.

i was talking about a 1/2 or 3/4 impact and a tank to keep up with it not that tool and im not being critical but what if the pulley doesnt have provisions for that tool like my civic, it has a round hole not an octagon is there other ways?
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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Default Re: So, I tried changing my timing belt today: Lol inside.

if you remove your bummper you wouldnt have to have such long extensions. the shorter it is the better
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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I used the crank pulley holder and all Snap on tools to change my timing belt and water pump. It went smooth, the problem was the axle nuts lol Bent a craftsman breaker bad and snapped a Snap On! They were really on there! No air tools either BTW those electric impact guns that use like drill batteries, even the best I have seen still wont take many things out. It was usefull for my windshield wipers to remove them haha Other than that its basically a tool used to snug something before you tighten it with a regular socket or wrench.
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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Default Re: So, I tried changing my timing belt today: Lol inside.

Originally Posted by mouab18c1
if you remove your bummper you wouldnt have to have such long extensions. the shorter it is the better
DAMN! WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT!! Im mad now haha.

Well, I might have to get that hexagonal tool finally, bought a 340lb/ft pneumatic impact wrench and got my compressor to do 120psi.... nothing..........



Well, tomorrow, bigger compressor, then I try again to break it manually. Using some of the methods posted above. ugh.
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 08:16 AM
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Try using some blaster if you haven't yet. The vibrating impact guns help to work the oil into the threads. Clean the oil off before reinstalling.
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Yikes, I hate stuck bolts.
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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lol all to familiar, i think i broke just about everything you have there on my gsr about 2 months ago, i used a 1/2" ingersol rand impact with 130 psi for a few hours with penetrating oil and the tool that keeps the crank from turning, the bolt laughed its *** off at the impact. used the breaker bar with a 19mm 3/8" socked, well the 1/2 ot 3/8 adapter broke, 2 actually, - ps these tools are not cheap.. so what it ended up taking was a 1/2" breaker bar, NO extension or adapters, just a 19mm 1/2" socked, the breaker bar and socked on the crank, while my buddy layed under the car and stomped the (&%* out of the bar, after 10 stomps we heard a small creaking nosie, 2 more slams it popped loose, the bolt had loctite on it but came off. impact lost this round...
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if u got the money 3/4 impact and propane 2 heat up the bolt with some penetration lube and u wannna tigtenten losen tighten losen to try and massaged it loose but good point mouab18c1 remove bumper i mean i just locked the flywheel with a long crowbar tru the starter hole and did what my last post said it works a ll better cause of the leverage
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Get you a can of AeroKroil penatrant, its expensive but it works wonders and you desperately need a GOOD Ingersoll Rand 1/2" impact and a serious compressor. If not available go with 1/2" min breaker bars as short as you can with the extensions and use a good sledge hammer to strike it, the impacts are what will break the bolt loose. GL
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