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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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I'm rebuilding an f22a4 for my accord, and I'm planning on upgrading the cam and valve springs. I've heard good things about Bisimoto and Delta, and have been to both of theyre websites. Bisimoto seems a little more Honda specific than Delta, but what are the opinions on these two? and are there any others i should consider? thanks.
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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I don't know too much about delta but folks here on the forum adore Bisi, and from the dynos I have seen, I can understand why..

In the end, make a purchase you are comfortable with.. but most certainly, bisimoto is a great choice..
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nicolaselias
but most certainly, bisimoto is a great choice..
Thanks for the support




OP: Bisimoto Engineering can definitely set you up with a camshaft that will help you meet if not exceed whatever your end goals maybe for your rideGive me a call here at 888-922-6686 ext.3 and we can talk about the different options that Bisimoto Engineering has for you
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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^ And right there is one of the reasons people suggest Bisimoto.

It is increasingly rare to find a business that is a sponsor and actively posts in the tech sections with suggestions and help.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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go bisi or go home. later.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Delta or Web Cams/custom spec.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by j3wman
go bisi or go home. later.
Lol. Thank you for you support.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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Default Re: Bisimoto vs Delta?

I haven't used parts from either company, but I am yet to hear a complaint from a Bisi product.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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I'd go Bisi. Delta sounds too cheap(Like a Ebay brand) to me, but I've heard others using it with no problem though.

I had a Level 2 VTEC cam in my F22B1 motor, and it was a fun car to drive, but I went a different route.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 11:14 PM
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I wouldn't go far enough to say that it sounds like an ebay brand. Delta has been around for a while and plenty of people support their product.
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by nus_dogg
I'd go Bisi. Delta sounds too cheap(Like a Ebay brand) to me, but I've heard others using it with no problem though.

I had a Level 2 VTEC cam in my F22B1 motor, and it was a fun car to drive, but I went a different route.
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I wouldn't go far enough to say that it sounds like an ebay brand. Delta has been around for a while and plenty of people support their product.
Ah yeah, Delta has been around for at least 25 years. For the longest time the Delta 272 was one of the only aftermarket cams available for the F22. I never heard any complaints about it from anyone I knew who ran one. If Delta seems cheap that's because there a direct to consumer production shop. They don't have to charge more.

If you know the specs of the cam that you are looking for it's pretty easy to have a cam ground or hard welded for you. I have had 2 cam grinds done, one was a re-grind and the other a hard weld. The hard weld is a bit more expensive than a regrind.

If you know what you want out of your motor, or more specifically, the specs of your cam. Web Cams or Delta should be able to help you out. Give them a call/email I'm sure they will be more than happy to give you some information.

Check out Web Cam Inc. for yourself!
http://www.webcamshafts.com/

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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 05:28 AM
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When it comes to accord performance, no one does it better than Bisimoto. We have web perform our grinds to our specs perfected on the dyno, street and track, and the prices are superb.

The other company mentioned has had issues with idling, ideal powerbands, and they use V8 grinds on Hondas (actually, the very same grinds on multiple applications). How can they properly design camshafts when they do not even know the rocker ratios of the engines in question?

If you desire a camshaft that is tailored for your setup, and proven on the street/strip and dyno, then Bisimoto engineering is your best choice. Afterall, we do have the fastest and most reliable F22 engines on the planet!
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 05:31 AM
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For more data, here is a link to the Bisimoto Dyno vault:

http://www.bisimoto.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=30

You can view lots of power charts there.
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Old May 11, 2011 | 07:44 PM
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Let's say you got 200$ extra go ahead and get bisimoto great company with great hp numbers on their cam ,but price not for my pocket . But delta been around for a while and never ever have I heard any problems with them . Bisimoto 2.4 is the same thing as delta 272 2 . If you want the name go bisi if you want cheap go delta simple as that
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Old May 12, 2011 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Bisimoto
When it comes to accord performance, no one does it better than Bisimoto. We have web perform our grinds to our specs perfected on the dyno, street and track, and the prices are superb.

The other company mentioned has had issues with idling, ideal powerbands, and they use V8 grinds on Hondas (actually, the very same grinds on multiple applications). How can they properly design camshafts when they do not even know the rocker ratios of the engines in question?

If you desire a camshaft that is tailored for your setup, and proven on the street/strip and dyno, then Bisimoto engineering is your best choice. Afterall, we do have the fastest and most reliable F22 engines on the planet!
bisi is a the mad scientist of the f22. i would not trust delta over bisi any day because i know bisi loves honda and delta probably just loves money.

im pretty sure bisi has spent more time and has gone more deep into your engine then delta has.

now im sure delta has bad *** ford cams but honda isnt their cup of tea
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Old May 12, 2011 | 08:10 AM
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Old thread/
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Old May 12, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by granny racer
bisi is a the mad scientist of the f22. i would not trust delta over bisi any day because i know bisi loves honda and delta probably just loves money.

im pretty sure bisi has spent more time and has gone more deep into your engine then delta has.

now im sure delta has bad *** ford cams but honda isnt their cup of tea
LOL this is an old thread but you are right much time and testing went into the development of all the Bisimoto camshafts throughout the years and are even far superior than before and available for more than just the F-series power plant

Thank-you for the support buddy
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Julio@Bisimoto
LOL this is an old thread but you are right much time and testing went into the development of all the Bisimoto camshafts throughout the years and are even far superior than before and available for more than just the F-series power plant

Thank-you for the support buddy
can i see some testing on the f22a 2.4 cam
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 04:35 AM
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It'll be awhile.
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nus_dogg
It'll be awhile.
why if bisi has so much time and testing, i would think he would post the crap out of the results he does every thing else. i have said it before and i will say it agian i dont think the cam has any R&D.But i do think it will work because bisi knows what he is doing on f22s so well.
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