OPEN slate fabrication. Crx body. FWD V8? Rear engine V6? Throw ideas at me

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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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Default OPEN slate fabrication. Crx body. FWD V8? Rear engine V6? Throw ideas at me

Im kinda bored, just moved, and have a Crx beggin for some attention. The car is it sits is junk. The wiring harness has been mouse ridden, no engine etc. SO I figure I might aswell put some time and cash into it and have a fun little street car.

I need options, possibly reads, and opinions on what route is best for me and my fab ability though. I personally wanna do a V8 RWD, possibly V6 RWD, but Im not looking to do an LS2 or anything like that, as I dont wanna deal with massive wiring harnesses. Something simple like a carbed V8 or V6 if that would be all that would be feasible.

What I dont really get is suspension/steering as Ive never had a RWD car.

One thing I was thinking of, to possibly majorly simplify things, is possibly simply putting an engine in THE BACK of the car?? And simply using the stock Crx suspension (aftermarket but stock size no modifications etc) and steering upfront, and all modifications would be in the rear.

Im assuming I would have to cut out pretty much the whole rear of the car, go with a fuel cell etc, but that seems a tad easier than making a driveshaft tunnell and completely revamping the front end

Can you guys throw some ideas at me, as for braking, engine choices, some ideas etc. Id like to try and get this going this offseason, possibly even finished as I have a good ammount of cash rolling in now.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 03:39 AM
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I like your ideas. I will look for some links to help you out. I know one guy is working on a crx with an S2000 powertrain. There is also a full thread on a rear engine/rwd integra conversion that was very impressive. There was also a black crx that a guy did a rwd conversion recently and there are some videos of it on the track. If you look in the Hybrid forum I know they are there, but I will look for a couple minutes to see if I can find them for you.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 03:47 AM
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Look here for the integra build. You may have to go to another site to see all the pics.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/hybrid-engine-swaps-18/94-integra-gsr-mid-engine-rwd-h22a4-conversion-981613/
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 04:28 AM
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click my sig.

personally, i think if you can use a bolt in subframe you're better off because you can fabricate the mounting points into the body of the car. my rear end is a bolt in, and has been a big time saver as far as ensuring proper alignment. it also has a lot of aftermarket support if i want to upgrade parts of it down the road (but i'm already considering building my own subframe as a replacement.

i like the idea of keeping the engine in the front, and also keeping it a honda motor. i know there are probably a couple people working on adapters to put a honda v6 on an s2k tranny.

wiring is certainly a big issue, but i don't think you should let that dictate which engine you choose, you are really limiting your choices (and availability) by doing that. naturally, it would keep costs down though, but doing this sorta thing yourself, you're only going to be paying for material and hard parts anyway.

you should consider swaps like the sr20, 4age, 3sgte(mr2), or even a bmw drivetrain or if a 2jz would fit with some minor hood modification.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 05:48 AM
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put an old ford 2.3 SVO turbo motor in it. LOTS of parts for them available. Motors are dirt cheap and the block can take some serious hp. That would be awesome
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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Well what I meant by elminating wiring, is say if you use a carbed v6 or v8 from back in the day (that I know nothing about but my father does) is that there is NO wiring right? Just starter and thats it form the engine, obviously I would add some sensors/fuel pump etc, but thats far less major than dealing with an OEM harness.

Im not looking for a 2-5 year build.... if I was to keep a regular turbo engine in the car with all wiring involved etc, I would simply just replace the oem wiring in the crx and not have to worry about any fab at all and just go with a big boosted d16, but I dont want that. I want different

Ive seen youre build weir, read very extensive on it. I dont get what you mean by BOLT IN subframe though, you practically cut the car out lol.

Keeping the engine in the rear would absolutely be sweet, but what engine can it be done with?? Theres no way to get a carbed v6 or v8 back there because of the transmission right?? Any other options?? Im all ears hear
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 05:34 AM
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Please don't do a carb'd v8...that's so hillbilly. Do something different and think outside the box. If you have the time and motivation to build something do something ground breaking in some small way. Carb'd V8 is just hillbilly in the garage with a stick welder or MIG welder showing all the boys, with beers in hand, what a fab guy he thinks he is. If that's you, then I guess do the carb'd V8, but if not do something else.

Stuff some kind of V6 or 5 cylinder in there with rwd and try and keep it stock looking. Maybe a boxer engine or porsche setup in the rear end like a 911...may be something cheap out there. Do a 4cyl diesel setup running on bio and get like 60mpg...that'd be cool. CRX's are light, so making a mpg monster could be fun and practical in this era of "green".
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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As for your rear engine transmission issue, there was a guy on here who was putting a Legend v6 in the back of a DC2, but he ended up scrapping the project. The gearbox he used was from a Porsche, not sure what from, but he was able to get drive shafts lined up. I would say 6 cylinders at the most, and if you DO go carb'd, at least do some cool carbs like Mikuni, not some edlebrock fuel dumper.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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i have a friend that has already tried doing a build like this. CRX body with built 383 SBC stroker and tubbed in the rear. he has since abandoned the project and installed the engine in a first gen RX7

its a ton of work, i know if it was my car i wouldn't waste the time or money.

IMO v8's should stay in cars that came with v8's
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Honestly wiring isnt as complicated as it seems. Look up Painless wiring in google it can help you out alot they sell kits with instructions.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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if you wanna do ford 2.3 turbo swap, I have everything from the complete engine to trans and drive shaft, pretty much everything.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jenkinsal2
Honestly wiring isnt as complicated as it seems. Look up Painless wiring in google it can help you out alot they sell kits with instructions.
exactly, and they can squeeze alot more ponies (more easily)out of the same engine with EFI. Not that that matters when its stuffed into a crx...however 350s were bolted in the same way for 50+ years....so if you wanted to just build a carbed 350 now for simplicity, later on it would just be an engine swap to put a newer LS in it.

Personally I would stick with a v6 in the front. While stuffing a v8 in the rear is great for show, I imagine it would destroy the cars handling characteristics without some serious suspension work by trial and error. And would probably be one hairy ride in a straight line without the suspension mods.

good luck and takes lots of pics
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by weiRtech
i like the idea of keeping the engine in the front, and also keeping it a honda motor. i know there are probably a couple people working on adapters to put a honda v6 on an s2k tranny.
http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...ls-37l-v6.html



Seems that it's a feasible combination at least..
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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I'd do a ls1 or lq9.

Both are cheap ($700-1,000 with harness) and easily available from junkyards.

You might find a better deal than that with a complete ls1/t56 from a wrecked camaro or firebird.

narrowed 9", 4-link . . . starting to sound like a race car.
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...ls-37l-v6.html



Seems that it's a feasible combination at least..
v10?that link said they stuffed a v10 into an s2000 chassis.talk about crazy
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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DO IT!!!
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