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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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I've read around on here for tips on welding aluminum and I started getting the hang of getting a puddle started but I cannot seem to get a puddle going for 2 separate pieces that I'm trying to join. I was practicing on some scrap and every time I tried to start the puddle it was rip a hole rite away in one of the sheets even if I concentrated the heat away from that sheet.

Any suggestions? btw I'm using a Syncrowave 180, Red tungsten electrode. Used about 50 amps for these thin sheets.



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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 11:20 PM
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the alloy looks realy thin, id just use the tortch and not even use a rod
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pleej
the alloy looks realy thin, id just use the tortch and not even use a rod
I promise you will be able to break that weld by hand if you dont use filler.

You are just moving to slow and not adding enough filler. You need to be aggressive about adding filler with AL. AL looooves to crack with a lack of filler.

I wouldnt recommend thin sheet for a beginner learning to weld AL. Get something thicker to practice on so you can learn to control the puddle and properly add filler without the added distraction of burning through. Once you get used to it you then move to thin ****.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ManBearPig4silly
I promise you will be able to break that weld by hand if you dont use filler.

You are just moving to slow and not adding enough filler. You need to be aggressive about adding filler with AL. AL looooves to crack with a lack of filler.

I wouldnt recommend thin sheet for a beginner learning to weld AL. Get something thicker to practice on so you can learn to control the puddle and properly add filler without the added distraction of burning through. Once you get used to it you then move to thin ****.
I agree. I must also mention not to fall into the trap of huge filler additions with big steps.
Aluminum weldign is best done close to stainless technique. Use a smaller rod and add it more often.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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Alright I'll go ahead and try out your suggestions guys, thanks a lot.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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you need to be using green tungsten with aluminum.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by russianvr4
you need to be using green tungsten with aluminum.
^^^ I find that red tungsten is better and last longer on aluminum. Just make sure you ball your tungsten before you start welding. A piece of copper and reverse the polarity on the AC and you can ball up the tungsten a little bit.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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haha, it's so funny, all the advice is different. I would use, 2% thoriated (red), sharpened with my balance toward the pen side. Use a small arc and keep the fit tight and get the rod in before you cut a hole. I often put the rod in before I have a puddle and "blow it in" with a bit of arc force on really thin stuff. Get your face close to the puddle, like the one fell said, avoid the thin stuff and get it super clean and burr-free. Balling the electrode spreads the heat (good) but makes it harder to get the arc to go where you want.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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green for old school welders. red for inverters. start on a thicker pick or you will just drive your slef nuts.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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i also find it easier to start on either side, let heat build and then drop a dab to join the 2 parts
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