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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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Default can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

Hey just upgraded cams to sks 2 pro 2. I never Degreed cams before wondering if I would have to pull the motor to do it?
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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Default Re: can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

no but it would make it alot easyer do u have the mike belben kit
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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Default Re: can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

I haven't bough a kit yet would that be the one to get
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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Default Re: can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

its honestly the only one i know of lol i dont think there is others but search it up and you should see the seller and there is acouple threads on how to do this , are you taking the car to the dyno to tune cam timing ? and has your head been mild or do your use a thinner head gasket ?
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 05:47 AM
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Default Re: can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

Had scheduled a dyno tune for next Friday. Really didn't feel too comfortable with trying to mess with the cam gears. As I'm sure the head and blocks been milled and becked before. the block is a gsr bored 85mm gsr stroke cp pistons eagle rods. Bout 13.1 cr rlz pnp type r head with stock vavles with there springs sks pro 2 cams. Don't think ill get s kit in before then but if it possible to degree came in car I will just do that later
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 06:17 AM
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Default Re: can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

You can use Skunk2 centerlines, reference them to OEM centerlines (0,0) and do the math.

Quick settings for B-series Pro2's are -1 intake / +3 exhaust. Add ~1 degree for every 0.015-0.020" off the deck height.

You will have no problems with P2V and V2V with those settings. Knowing your clearances will assist you when it comes to tuning cam timing.
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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Default Re: can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

^Where do you get the Skunk2 centerlines from? Just curious as to how the H22 Pro 1's would be set.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 06:38 AM
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Default Re: can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

Originally Posted by HdeucedeuceA
^Where do you get the Skunk2 centerlines from? Just curious as to how the H22 Pro 1's would be set.
Skunk2 has their cam cards on their website.

For example, H22 Pro1:
http://www.skunk2.com/installation/305-05-5200.pdf
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 07:12 AM
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Default Re: can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

Originally Posted by 92TypeR
You can use Skunk2 centerlines, reference them to OEM centerlines (0,0) and do the math.

Quick settings for B-series Pro2's are -1 intake / +3 exhaust. Add ~1 degree for every 0.015-0.020" off the deck height.

You will have no problems with P2V and V2V with those settings. Knowing your clearances will assist you when it comes to tuning cam timing.
What he said as a starting point.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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Default Re: can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

Originally Posted by 92TypeR
Skunk2 has their cam cards on their website.

For example, H22 Pro1:
http://www.skunk2.com/installation/305-05-5200.pdf
So how would I go about compairing them to OEM H22 cams? Sorry for the ignorant questins but this is competely new to me. I would imagine finding the OEM specs would be a good starting place, but what after that?
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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Default Re: can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

You should be able to degree your cams with the motor in the car. But remember you have to do it on the vtec lobe so you will have to lock it in vtec.

It will not be easy to read the degree wheel, but you can do it.

Stefan
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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Default Re: can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

can you show how to lock the vtec by a picture
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Old Jun 21, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Default Re: can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

use a magnet to pull the rocker pin, drop a BB in there and put it back in





then stack em and reinstall



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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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Default Re: can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

i just did this yesterday. since its hard to put them back in without loosing the bb zip tie them together install back in the head. get back on the rod and your locked. but only on one valve
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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Default Re: can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

Originally Posted by mike_belben@yahoo.com
use a magnet to pull the rocker pin, drop a BB in there and put it back in
Mike Belben is back on HT? That just made my day.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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Default Re: can you degree cams with the motor in the car?

Not to post hog or intrufe but does anyone know where to adjust the Rocket M24xx cams. Or where is a good starting point?

The specs I got are:
Vtec intake events at 0.050"
262 dur 102 lc open 28 btdc close 53 abdc
Max lift 0472"

Vtec exhaust events at 0.050"
262 dur 110 lc open 61 bbdc close 21 atdc
Max lift 0472"

Lobe centers 102 intake 110 exhaust.

What is the difference compared to stock ?
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