H2B Dyno Chart H23A 203/165 Bone Stock Longblock never touched, dropped in as is
It's a Bluetop H23A and it's bone stock. I basically mean that the same way I bought it from Enginedepot is the way it is now. The only engine part changed wa the exhaust header. I still have the factory throttle body balance shafts and all. I could also use I dyno tune, all I had was a street tune. Only reason on the dyno was because T&R racing had a dyno day special for $50 that day.
For future mods I plan on going with some Pro1s or 2s then later maybe sleeving then dropping 12:1 pistons in, not 100% sure yet though
Here is the Vid, seconds 1:39-2:18
I wish the camera man woulda played until the car opened VTEC and revved all the way outhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKPvu...eature=channel
For future mods I plan on going with some Pro1s or 2s then later maybe sleeving then dropping 12:1 pistons in, not 100% sure yet though
Here is the Vid, seconds 1:39-2:18
I wish the camera man woulda played until the car opened VTEC and revved all the way outhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKPvu...eature=channel
Last edited by CRAZY-EG9; Dec 2, 2009 at 01:22 PM.
Yeah which to me is kind of a good thing. WHY? because that shows me that these motors must come with automatic cams. I mean these motors never came 5 speed so that's making me think that the cams are even more mild than stock JDM H22 cams so, that shows if I do a cam swap that can carry my power a little further before dropping it will be a serious beast especially if I go all out with the bottom and topend
Last edited by CRAZY-EG9; Nov 30, 2009 at 12:22 PM.
i bet that's a fun car. Careful with over-revving it, my roommates F20B w/ auto cams dropped a valve at 9k when he missed a gear. We postulated that these motors with auto cams also have weaker valvesprings.
That motor is strong tho, while it's running that good I wouldn't touch the bottom end.
That motor is strong tho, while it's running that good I wouldn't touch the bottom end.
Here is the Vid, seconds 1:39-2:18
I wish the camera man woulda played until the car opened VTEC and revved all the way out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKPvu...eature=channel
I wish the camera man woulda played until the car opened VTEC and revved all the way out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKPvu...eature=channel
Last edited by CRAZY-EG9; Dec 2, 2009 at 01:23 PM.
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sorry to butt in but i have a h2b kit with a h22a4 balance shaft eliminators, types s cams, megan header, skunk2 68mm tb, stock mani (in the processes of gutting) and underdrive pulley. about how much power should i expect with this set up?
hmm id say 190ish if its not tuned yet..
Last edited by CRAZY-EG9; Dec 3, 2009 at 10:39 AM.
well i bought the h2b kit with the motor and hasport motormount (which i cant use they are ek mounts) and the header came witht he swap. the only thing im goin to add to this set up right now is a fuel rail, cams possibly.
besides buying the engine mount for a eg/dc chassis any thing else i have to do as far as putting it in my car and getting it to run
As a H23A Vtec Blue Top guru this seems right... looks like you swapped the intake manifold for the normal H22 one? Hope you swapped the Blue Top Throttle Body over cause that is 65mm.
Being a H2B I am assuming, GSR or B16 tranny (shorter gears) you will yield a higher hp then someone running a H/F trans. Apples and Oranges.
I would check your head between cylinders 2-3 see if the stamping says PDE or P13 post up the results...
None the less good project and post!
I would assume a H22 trans would of had you at around 190+ whp and low 160's torque. None the less I like to think of this Blue Top as a better horsepower and torque motor out of the box then the more expensive Euro R/Type S motor. Bigger stroke = more power.
I made 212 whp 174 trq stock internal Blue Top H23AVtec PDE, H22 trans, Euro R mani, 68mm TB and ESP Header and 3" exhaust on crome.
Being a H2B I am assuming, GSR or B16 tranny (shorter gears) you will yield a higher hp then someone running a H/F trans. Apples and Oranges.
I would check your head between cylinders 2-3 see if the stamping says PDE or P13 post up the results...
None the less good project and post!
I would assume a H22 trans would of had you at around 190+ whp and low 160's torque. None the less I like to think of this Blue Top as a better horsepower and torque motor out of the box then the more expensive Euro R/Type S motor. Bigger stroke = more power.
I made 212 whp 174 trq stock internal Blue Top H23AVtec PDE, H22 trans, Euro R mani, 68mm TB and ESP Header and 3" exhaust on crome.
Last edited by ESP.net; Dec 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM.
As a H23A Vtec Blue Top guru this seems right... looks like you swapped the intake manifold for the normal H22 one? Hope you swapped the Blue Top Throttle Body over cause that is 65mm.
Being a H2B I am assuming, GSR or B16 tranny (shorter gears) you will yield a higher hp then someone running a H/F trans. Apples and Oranges.
I would check your head between cylinders 2-3 see if the stamping says PDE or P13 post up the results...
None the less good project and post!
I would assume a H22 trans would of had you at around 190+ whp and low 160's torque. None the less I like to think of this Blue Top as a better horsepower and torque motor out of the box then the more expensive Euro R/Type S motor. Bigger stroke = more power.
I made 212 whp 174 trq stock internal Blue Top H23AVtec PDE, H22 trans, Euro R mani, 68mm TB and ESP Header and 3" exhaust on crome.
Being a H2B I am assuming, GSR or B16 tranny (shorter gears) you will yield a higher hp then someone running a H/F trans. Apples and Oranges.
I would check your head between cylinders 2-3 see if the stamping says PDE or P13 post up the results...
None the less good project and post!
I would assume a H22 trans would of had you at around 190+ whp and low 160's torque. None the less I like to think of this Blue Top as a better horsepower and torque motor out of the box then the more expensive Euro R/Type S motor. Bigger stroke = more power.
I made 212 whp 174 trq stock internal Blue Top H23AVtec PDE, H22 trans, Euro R mani, 68mm TB and ESP Header and 3" exhaust on crome.
As a H23A Vtec Blue Top guru this seems right... looks like you swapped the intake manifold for the normal H22 one? Hope you swapped the Blue Top Throttle Body over cause that is 65mm.
Being a H2B I am assuming, GSR or B16 tranny (shorter gears) you will yield a higher hp then someone running a H/F trans. Apples and Oranges.
I would check your head between cylinders 2-3 see if the stamping says PDE or P13 post up the results...
None the less good project and post!
I would assume a H22 trans would of had you at around 190+ whp and low 160's torque. None the less I like to think of this Blue Top as a better horsepower and torque motor out of the box then the more expensive Euro R/Type S motor. Bigger stroke = more power.
I made 212 whp 174 trq stock internal Blue Top H23AVtec PDE, H22 trans, Euro R mani, 68mm TB and ESP Header and 3" exhaust on crome.
Being a H2B I am assuming, GSR or B16 tranny (shorter gears) you will yield a higher hp then someone running a H/F trans. Apples and Oranges.
I would check your head between cylinders 2-3 see if the stamping says PDE or P13 post up the results...
None the less good project and post!
I would assume a H22 trans would of had you at around 190+ whp and low 160's torque. None the less I like to think of this Blue Top as a better horsepower and torque motor out of the box then the more expensive Euro R/Type S motor. Bigger stroke = more power.
I made 212 whp 174 trq stock internal Blue Top H23AVtec PDE, H22 trans, Euro R mani, 68mm TB and ESP Header and 3" exhaust on crome.
Also if my street tune was good but not crazy aggressive (Id say my tune was bet. moderate and aggressive) what do ya'll think I'd gain on a good aggresive Dyno tune, or should I say what is the average gain on Hseries from street tune to Dyno tune???
Yeah I talked to you on the phone one day about these motors, unfortunatly I wasn't lucky enough to find one that says PDE, like you were telling me, mines says P13, and that's why it came with that Manifold. I noticed some bluetops come with the Mani that says PGMFI and some come without that plate. The guy that had my car on the dyno said it had a little more in but obviously for $50 dollars he wasn't gonna actually tune it, so far the car only has a street tune on Crome.
Also if my street tune was good but not crazy aggressive (Id say my tune was bet. moderate and aggressive) what do ya'll think I'd gain on a good aggresive Dyno tune, or should I say what is the average gain on Hseries from street tune to Dyno tune???
Also if my street tune was good but not crazy aggressive (Id say my tune was bet. moderate and aggressive) what do ya'll think I'd gain on a good aggresive Dyno tune, or should I say what is the average gain on Hseries from street tune to Dyno tune???
Some may disagree, or certain dyno's will read lower but on the average a H23A Vtec Blue Top should have about 5-10 hp and 5-10 more ft lbs of torque then your average JDM H22A.
When talking about $ the Blue Top H23A Vtec Longblock will be about $100 more then the JDM H22A or in some cases even cheaper. This makes it kinda a no brainer.
I'll be dyno'ing another H23A Vtec Blue Top PDE Crx in the next few weeks
When talking about $ the Blue Top H23A Vtec Longblock will be about $100 more then the JDM H22A or in some cases even cheaper. This makes it kinda a no brainer.
I'll be dyno'ing another H23A Vtec Blue Top PDE Crx in the next few weeks
i could have sworn you said somebody else was going to tune the car. any reason why you decided to go with that person?
This motor seems to put out some great numbers. But as for me, I'm taking out my H22 in my BB6, to go F20B. It's gonna stay NA because PS and AC are musts, and even with those NA H23A numbers, a fully loaded Prelude is gonna be slow, so I might as well do the F20B, the power delivery is going to be more fun.


