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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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Here is the dilema...


Just recently, two prospects, one built, one bought a car. One is a 95 EG Sedan (DX), with an LS SWAP (97 Integra), the other is an actual 97 Integra. The two met and we explained and the inevitable debate came as to which car would be faster. BOTH are 5 speed manuals, bone stock, with only Cold air intakes and mufflers on the back. Unfortunately, ol boy with the Integra won't line up for whatever reason..

But he believes his car is FASTER. Me personally, I think he'd lose because the DX has the integra in weight by at least 200lbs. Neither driver weighs more then 140lbs themselves and are equally skilled ( I taught em both how to drive manual, so i'd know.) I think it's a no brainer...he and other say otherwise..

so...if you all wouldn't mind..put it to rest for us.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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Just go hard.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 12:59 AM
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Just go to the track..?
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 03:17 AM
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only one way to find out

go to the track

bench racing is the gay
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 91tegraRS
only one way to find out

go to the track

bench racing is the gay
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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If you read my post, I stated clean as day that the guy doesn't wanna race the integra. Believe me i've given my best efforts, i've even offered him 50 bucks to run the thing. He doesn't wanna take the drive to englishtown, and he's to ***** to street the thing one time down South 20th street.

Bench racing is all we have at the moment and believe you me I'm not a fan of it, but I still think in this case it's obvious who'd win, Dude just wanna see someone else other then me say it. is what it is at this point..My votes going for the Civic with the LS swap.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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I got my money on the GT-R. Godzilla!!!
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 09:07 AM
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is the other 97 teg a LS or gsr.? but chances are, the civic is gonna get eM.. but never know! best way is to have eM rUn.!
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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Retarded thread is retarded.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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When someone won't race their car, it's because they know they won't win or have doubts. If he won't put up, he'll have to shut up since bench racing is still just an opinion and you already have enough of those.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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Tell your skinny friends to eat some cheeseburgers.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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well lets do some thinking here for a minute. Lets say one of the cars isn't in good running condition, for example, the timing is off, valves are adjusted out of whack, there are many things that would contribute to which car is faster besides the fact that HEY! ITS A CIVIC WITH A LS SWAP!!!!WHO KNOWS HOW HEALTHY THE MOTOR IS THO!!! BUT HEY!!! CIVIC LS SWAP!! WOO!!! The civic LS could run like dogshit and the teg could run as good as it did when it came out of the factory. Try factoring that into your equation.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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go to the track and shut up, if the other kid doesnt want to race then you'll never know. get over it. But i assume you made this post because you wanted the manpower to go ahead and say HEY!! EVERYONE ON HONDA-TECH TOLD ME THE LS CIVIC WOULD BE FASTER!!! SO IT MUST BE!
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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So if the guy doesn't want to race what are you going to do? Go back to him and tell him that a bunch of people on a website said he would loose.

Sorry but this is an extremely lame thread.

IIRC bench racing is not one of the preferred topics in the AM forum.

ibtl
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by domokun!!!
go to the track and shut up, if the other kid doesnt want to race then you'll never know. get over it. But i assume you made this post because you wanted the manpower to go ahead and say HEY!! EVERYONE ON HONDA-TECH TOLD ME THE LS CIVIC WOULD BE FASTER!!! SO IT MUST BE!

You're being rude telling another grown man to Shut up for these reasons, but i'm not gonna entertain the exchange. But Honda-Tech is a respected source of information and the opinion of it's members are valued..hence why I sought the opinion in the first place.

As for the condition of the cars, BOTH motors are LS motors from a 97 Integra, no GSR's. BOTH have around 45K on them with no major issues whatsoever, I Pieced together and built both motors myself and for the most part they have been brought to their current conditions under identical circumstances.

In any case I don't think i'm gonna get an answer, just more opinions about my opinion, so sorry to have bothered u all with this in the first place.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Well if your stating that the engines are exactly the same and the drivers are exactly the same. Then it comes down to gear ratios, weight of the cars and type of suspension/tires on them.

Witch one of the two is lighter, has the better gear ratios, suspention setup and tires?

If your going to say they are both the same setup. Then the only way is to get them to put their cars on the track.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostAccord
Well if your stating that the engines are exactly the same and the drivers are exactly the same. Then it comes down to gear ratios, weight of the cars and type of suspension/tires on them.

Witch one of the two is lighter, has the better gear ratios, suspention setup and tires?

If your going to say they are both the same setup. Then the only way is to get them to put their cars on the track.

Ok...Debate settled, I got the ***** to street it. EG Civic Won by half a car.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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Wow that was quick. You must have been posting on your phone eh! Guess Teggy has to eat his words.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostAccord
Wow that was quick. You must have been posting on your phone eh! Guess Teggy has to eat his words.
Yea, Samsung Finess..



Of course he' didn't take the win easy, second run he gets eaten by a car. I'm not sure if thats driver error, but the civic DEFINTELY got a far better launch in the second go, clearly had em.

Well the debate is settled, I guess we're all gonna sit here and ponder why and what, but it has to be the weight, the first run they both left with wheel spin and it came down to the pull..slow, gradual pull away from the teg. Second run he jumped em from the line and never looked back.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TypeRMonster
Yea, Samsung Finess..



Of course he' didn't take the win easy, second run he gets eaten by a car. I'm not sure if thats driver error, but the civic DEFINTELY got a far better launch in the second go, clearly had em.

Well the debate is settled, I guess we're all gonna sit here and ponder why and what, but it has to be the weight, the first run they both left with wheel spin and it came down to the pull..slow, gradual pull away from the teg. Second run he jumped em from the line and never looked back.
honestly you're the only one who's gonna ponder why your 4DR beat him. feed your ego more with retarded threads like this?
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sayyoooon
honestly you're the only one who's gonna ponder why your 4DR beat him. feed your ego more with retarded threads like this?
A) Not my 4 Door.

B) What ego, Any of my cars are outlandishly faster then the two mentioned.

C) With it not being MY 4 door, where would MY EGO fit in on this? Not only is it NOT mine, there isnt a single post in my thread about this said EG 4 Door being MINE.

I think you love my big egooooooooooo...heheheh...now get off it.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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this is posted in the technical forums.................................
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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I got my money on the civic its lighter then the integra.. but it also depends on how the engine is running....
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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He doesnt wanna pull it up. He shouldnt be talking about racing....DELETE POST.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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i watched this guys videos on youtube from is other thread, imagine tpain and 2 rust buckets haha
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