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Old Sep 1, 2002 | 05:27 PM
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Default Powergains: Apexi VAFC

I've been considering purchasing the Apexi VAFC and getting the car tuned, but have a few questions:
#1. What kind of power gains should I expect on an ITR with an AEM CAI, DC JDM4-1, Carsound Cat, and Apex N1 exhaust?
#2. I hear the car must be dyno tuned. What about tuning it with a gas-analyzer? #3. How do you dyno tune it anyway, and know where to set the VTEC engagement?
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Old Sep 1, 2002 | 06:51 PM
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#1 - I hit 177whp with similar mods (stock b-pipe and can though) --> http://www.itr-nc.com/images/charlotte/patdyno.jpg

#2 - Not sure. Wideband O2 sensor + dyno is best

#3 - Check A/F ratios and power to add/remove fuel, and set VTEC point to "smooth" out the curve. See my plot above? Look at the difference in the curve of the graph with VTEC lowered a bit. After that, you couldn't feel VTEC, only hear it. That's what you want - smooth graphs
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Old Sep 1, 2002 | 10:19 PM
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What year Type R do you have? What were you exact mods. I have AEM CAI, comptech 4-2-1 header and the mugen axel back. Did you only have I/H/E (just the axel back right) and get 177whp with a vfac fully tuned? Thanks!
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 07:26 AM
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Splat -- any idea what your whp was before the VAFC and tuning?
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 08:44 AM
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get some cam gears and tune them on the dyno at the same time. save yourself the dyno time and do it all at once.
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 08:48 AM
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Splat -- any idea what your whp was before the VAFC and tuning?
I'd say 5-8 less. Just going by butt-dyno.

Setup:

2000 ITR #009
AEM CAI
JDM 4-1 header
2.5" Jeg's cat
STOCK exhaust (b-pipe flange modified to fit 2.5" cat, that's it)
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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you have a strong car. great numbers.

w/o a/f my car runs between 13/14 and ran 173.4/124.3 with just jdm 4-1, carsound, type one exhaust. now do you think i could extrapolate 5-8 whp with just a VAFC? maybe with intake i can produce similar numbers to yours...
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 11:38 AM
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you have a strong car.
HAD ........now boost ownz
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 01:00 PM
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HAD ........now boost ownz
werd, doc

b00st rox my nads now

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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 01:02 PM
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w/o a/f my car runs between 13/14 and ran 173.4/124.3 with just jdm 4-1, carsound, type one exhaust. now do you think i could extrapolate 5-8 whp with just a VAFC? maybe with intake i can produce similar numbers to yours...
Exhaust is your friend. I probably lost 1-2 peak hp with the bottlenecked stock setup. You will pick up a couple more with an intake and V-AFC. I'd say 179-180 not out of the question. You'll pick up a few lbs of torque, too.
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 01:05 PM
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*jots down VAFC on the long list of mods..*
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 01:13 PM
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*jots down VAFC on the long list of mods..*
Heh. My upgrade path was like this:

1. AEM CAI
2. JDM header + cat
3. V-AFC
4. Cam gears
5. Toda B's

V-AFC is, in my opinion, essential once you get to intake and header stage
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 01:19 PM
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Hell, I'd say do it before any other power mods.

Jason-
who would have one if he were allowed
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 01:53 PM
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hmmm with less mods I hit the same hps
176hps 126 tq
mods were
MSD digital 6
MSD Blaster HVC
MSD wires
NGK plugs
JDM Header
Greddy PE Exhaust
STR Cam Gears
thats it

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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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Hell, I'd say do it before any other power mods.

Jason-
who would have one if he were allowed
VAFC's aren't allowed in the Honda Challenge?
Are there any events like these in the Western United states? Roll cage required... *dollar signs in eyes appear*

disorder- who is reading the Honda Challenge rule book


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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 02:33 PM
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hmmm with less mods I hit the same hps
176hps 126 tq
mods were
MSD digital 6
MSD Blaster HVC
MSD wires
NGK plugs
JDM Header
Greddy PE Exhaust
STR Cam Gears
thats it
I didn't have cam gears for the 177 run. Stock b-pipe, t00

Just a Q - why all the ignition stuff?
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 02:42 PM
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edit- nm


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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 03:17 PM
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What kind of turbo are you running? And is your bottom end stock?
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 03:47 PM
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VAFC's aren't allowed in the Honda Challenge?
Only the hybrid/h1 stunnaz are allowed to use them.
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 03:51 PM
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Default Re: Powergains: Apexi VAFC (Jason Franza)

How much HP will the cam gears offer???
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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i ran that ignition for the built in two step launch rev limiter
and i had it from a previous car
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 04:02 PM
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Can't recall what turbo it is - I think in the neighborhood of a T04. Had to add another cylinder. Total displacement is 2.3L now out of the I5.

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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 04:14 PM
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I was thinking about getting vafc......
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Old Sep 2, 2002 | 04:37 PM
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adam get the vafc and take your car to clemons they have a wide bann O2 so you can see your A/F ratioit shows you how rich / lean at every rpm so you just bar up and down on the vafc at every rpm increment to get the perfect A/F ratio it isnt too hard give me a call sometime ill help you out

oh and get some skunk2 cam gears too

Jeremy


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Old Sep 3, 2002 | 12:57 PM
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181 whp with:
V-AFC
Toda camgears
DC JDM 4-1 Header
Carsound CAT with SMSP reducer
Stock CAT back
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