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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 02:07 AM
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Default cheap coil-overs have to changed FAST

Ok, so im in a rush, to change the crappy coil-overs which seem to never cushion any bumb i go over.
i found these, http://assaultech.com/store/product/...?itemid=111927 , which isnt a bad price for my "in a rush budget"

(((i do plan to save for the recommended set-up of Koni+ground control))

for the time being would these ksport lowering springs give me a smother ride??
here they are on ebay for alittle cheaper.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-93...Q5fAccessories

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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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no info on how these ride?
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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if u got cheap ebay coilovers then those ksports would work just fine.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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if u got cheap ebay coilovers then those ksports would work just fine.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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Pick something and just do it once. After you get an alignment, you're already spending as much as you would on a set of Ground Controls. When/if you change again, you'll have to get another alignment.
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Pick something and just do it once. After you get an alignment, you're already spending as much as you would on a set of Ground Controls. When/if you change again, you'll have to get another alignment.
i get you but one thing is that the car came to me with those coilovers and the set up i want to get,,, is going to cost me like 900 dollars which i cant reallly spend at the moment.. ground control cost 3 hundred and i cant really spend that right now either. not till next school semester
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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well, at least they're progressive springs. If it was me, I'd spend an extra $30 and get Eibach (actually, that's exactly what I did), but those should be reasonable quality.

Have you considered the possibility that your rough ride might be due to bad shocks, uncut bumpstops, or something else typical of an ebay lowering job?
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Have you considered the possibility that your rough ride might be due to bad shocks, uncut bumpstops, or something else typical of an ebay lowering job?
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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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since i already purchased the springs, i guess i will find out about the shocks when they are installed. but i think they were changed a year ago (shocks).
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 12:11 AM
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Are the egays currently dumped? What ride height are you using?
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 12:20 AM
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Are the egays currently dumped? What ride height are you using?
umm they got a few turns left .. my front tire sits right with my fender and the back has about one finger gap..
(((15" wheels 195/45/15tires)))))
people that sit in the back seat hit there heads constantly..
i fortunately have the steering wheel to hold my self down with..

if the roads in los angeles were some what better i wouldnt mind.
i already know what lanes to avoid at certain points of the freeway
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 12:38 AM
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another reason for the change is....
ok, so the spring doesnt fully take up all the space unless i raise it more,,
so when im driving and some way or another like through a dip the tire(shock) fully extends and when the tire gets back to the level street the spring goes crashing back up and makes a loud sound..

is that even normal?

will i still have that problem with the lowering springs?
im not sure if lowering springs are shorter or the same length as oem but with different spring characteristics that allow it to still fill the space but be soft enough at the right points to lower the car and still be stiff in right places to do its job..

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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 06:58 AM
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No, not at all. Your shocks/struts are supposed to be stiff enough not to let the car rise up off the springs. Your struts are SHOT.
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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Racelandus.com. Brand new company with the absolute lowest price for a full coilover kit. They're product is legit and of great quality. The prices are so low as a introductory rate. I'm getting a full set for myself and redoing all my suspension assoon as i get the chance.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 02:12 AM
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No, not at all. Your shocks/struts are supposed to be stiff enough not to let the car rise up off the springs. Your struts are SHOT.
wow ok so ima have to get new shocks too..
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 02:27 AM
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Racelandus.com. Brand new company with the absolute lowest price for a full coilover kit. They're product is legit and of great quality. The prices are so low as a introductory rate. I'm getting a full set for myself and redoing all my suspension assoon as i get the chance.
how did you hear about these?
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 06:46 AM
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My buddy put them in his golf gti and another put them on his hatch. Had it done ata pro shop and said he put them up to skunk2s and the build quality of the raceland setup looked better than them.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:25 AM
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My buddy put them in his golf gti and another put them on his hatch. Had it done ata pro shop and said he put them up to skunk2s and the build quality of the raceland setup looked better than them.
how would you describe stiff but not bouncy?
i looked them up and everyone says the same thing...

stiff but not bouncy...
idk im not really into slamming the **** out of my car..
i eventually want to get koni and gc which looks great and i hear performs very good.......
so i probably would get those only if i decide to give up on the koni and gc
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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Well they're awesome for the price and it's completely adjustable so you set it how you want it and personally I don't wanna drop upwards of $800 on suspension, but that's just me.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gilbert90605
how would you describe stiff but not bouncy?
i looked them up and everyone says the same thing...

stiff but not bouncy...
idk im not really into slamming the **** out of my car..
i eventually want to get koni and gc which looks great and i hear performs very good.......
so i probably would get those only if i decide to give up on the koni and gc
Stiff not bouncy = smooth

As for slamming the **** out of your car like that, most of the time you will have the same end result. Most of the time even with a camber kit, you'll still wear tires out and your struts wont last long.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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How do the racelands do against koni +gc?
Do they have different series coilovers or is it just one model?

Sorry to thread jack a lil
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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Cheap kyb gr2 gas shock with some kyb springs. you can find them from like 300 full kit used from ebay or craigs to 500 brand new off a website.

To be honest, in MY OPINION, there is NEVER a point in doing a short upgrade. If you want to get full coilovers or a good shock+spring combo in the future, don't waste money on a short term upgrade unless its 100% necessary. If your springs are completely blown and your car drags down the road scraping pavement, sure, short term upgrade is okay. But "to me", its a waste of money unless its uber important.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 03:23 AM
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Cheap kyb gr2 gas shock with some kyb springs. you can find them from like 300 full kit used from ebay or craigs to 500 brand new off a website.

To be honest, in MY OPINION, there is NEVER a point in doing a short upgrade. If you want to get full coilovers or a good shock+spring combo in the future, don't waste money on a short term upgrade unless its 100% necessary. If your springs are completely blown and your car drags down the road scraping pavement, sure, short term upgrade is okay. But "to me", its a waste of money unless its uber important.

i understand you ..but its annoying driving all day and bouncing ..
i live in los angeles and i do drive alot.. i would say i drive 230-270miles a week

i want comfort and performance at the same time and since at the moment i cant afford the full comfort and performance im going to take a small step towards it for a good while ..
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Originally Posted by Del Namco Solo
Cheap kyb gr2 gas shock with some kyb springs. you can find them from like 300 full kit used from ebay or craigs to 500 brand new off a website.

To be honest, in MY OPINION, there is NEVER a point in doing a short upgrade. If you want to get full coilovers or a good shock+spring combo in the future, don't waste money on a short term upgrade unless its 100% necessary. If your springs are completely blown and your car drags down the road scraping pavement, sure, short term upgrade is okay. But "to me", its a waste of money unless its uber important.
If you're lowering the car I wouldn't recomend the GR2's. They are an OEM replacement and won't last being lowered. I had these on my car and they were amazing and rode beautifully for about a month and then just loosened up. The seals were never broken or blown out, they just got loose and and bounced like crazy.
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get ground controls and agx or tokicos illuminas // or skunk2+agx or tokicos illuminas they ride good :] or complete skunk2
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