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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 04:48 AM
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This is an interview w/the guy who had overall responsibility for the styling of the G4 Acura TL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2b_8pcleJ4

You probably feel better about Matt, the engineer in overall charge of putting the technology and performance together.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPAM3GJODkM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXhdUkwH8-s
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 05:04 AM
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*throws lit cigarettes at designer*
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 05:07 AM
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A car's looks shouldn't have to be rationalized.

"Acura's customer base doesn't care about looks; they are more concerned with lap times at VIR."

*two weeks later*

"I don't understand how you can't like how this car looks."

*two weeks later*

"OK so we got the guy responsible for the design here to hopefully shed some light on the philosophy of the design for you guys to understand"

The car is bloated and has some off putting details. Yes I'm sure it performs great, and it has a nice interior, but looks-wise it is polarizing, and just generally doesn't have too many nice looking exterior elements.

Compare this car to
- the last TL
- Honda's best looking sedan, the G2 Legend
- the TSX

It becomes obvious where Honda messed up the design. Leave the exteriors to the Japanese, please Honda. I am begging you.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 05:16 AM
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ya there is an out-cry on other boards for the american designers to stay away from the next civic as well

the new tl is fugly . . makes the soul sick
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 05:18 AM
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The saving grace is that it performs well. Unfortuantely, most people select a car by its looks.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dogginator
The saving grace is that it performs well. Unfortuantely, most people select a car by its looks.
It's a shame because I am sure it's prob Honda's best car to date. But there's no point in the effort if the exterior, which is the initial draw, is repulsive.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Dogginator
*throws lit cigarettes at designer*
you shouldn't smoke, it's bad for you.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 05:35 AM
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How the hell does that guy have that job?

He seems like that douche in high school no one likes.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan
How the hell does that guy have that job?

He seems like that douche in high school no one likes.
similar to this guy on HT that can find anyone. . . how weird.

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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 05:52 AM
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No pics of yours GK???

Still think you should have bought the RL
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 05:59 AM
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Basically from what I gather by his wording...he has no clue wtf he was getting at by the design and pretty much came into work really hungover the morning design was due with it drawn on a napkin.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 06:03 AM
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I wanted to know who did this?

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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sicky
you shouldn't smoke, it's bad for you.
Who smokes? This is pure aggression. Picture the next level of the Clerks gum scene.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 06:09 AM
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do not like the new design
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BauleyCivic
No pics of yours GK???

Still think you should have bought the RL
GK has an Accord, no?
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinkycheezmonky
GK has an Accord, no?
He bought a 2010 TL 6-Speed SH AWD

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...2#post40720062
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 06:55 AM
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dynamic dynamic dynamic dynamic
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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looks like the body of a cow
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Whats Up DOHC
The car ... has some off putting details.
Sometimes I will stare at the trunk lid. I've heard all the explanations, and I guess I understand them, but I swear it still looks like somebody just up and karate-chopped the lid for no apparent reason.

As time goes on, however, I admit that more and more people seem to be liking the looks of the G4 TL.

Originally Posted by BauleyCivic
No pics of yours GK?
I put up some pictures of somebody else's car that looks exactly like mine.

One SH-AWD 6-6 with 18" five spoke wheels and Palladium Metallic looks pretty much like every other one built that way.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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After seeing a few on the road and not just in dealership lots, it just looks... wonky compared to other cars on the road. The back end especially just doesn't make sense to me.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dogginator
The saving grace is that it performs well. Unfortuantely, most people select a car by its looks.
It would be absolutely idiotic to buy a (non-track day) car that you hate looking at just b/c it will turn a fast time.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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My dad has one and it has really grown on me. Interior is truly incredible, and i can honestly say is on par or better than my uncles 550e.
The handling and chassis feedback is just ridiculous for a pig that it is, and the fourwheel drive system really does wonders when you start pushing the car. brakes are more than enough for the car and the sound of the engine is incredible for a 6cyl.

For what my dad is paying for it i can honestly say there is not better car on the road.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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I am now waiting for druid to come in and share how amazing the car looks.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Redtail
It would be absolutely idiotic to buy a (non-track day) car that you hate looking at just b/c it will turn a fast time.
You don't know what it looks like when you're driving it. Even if you don't like what it looks like when you're outside the car, you forget it...definitely...when you start driving it.

Originally Posted by Evil Smile
My dad has one and it has really grown on me. Interior is truly incredible, ....
Yes, it is. Lots of thought went into it.

The electronics are staggering for an old guy, but I'm getting the hang of it. Much of it is intuitive as you get used to the idea behind it.

Today I just guessed that I could say, "Map zoom in" to get what I was thinking and it worked perfectly.
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