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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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Default Building 82mm ls/vtec few concerns?

I have had the b18b block bored out to 82mm and was gonna use rs machines ctr pistons along with a Gsr head. I dont know exactly how the compression calculators(c speed,zeal) are coming up with there compression numbers without knowing the flow characteristics of my motor. To any knowledgeable engine builders what will my compression ratio actually be? I am trying to build around the limits of 92 octane fuel.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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You'd be looking at about 13.2:1, you're not going to want to use those pistons. Use the P30's or Pr3's. You'll probably run into clearance issues with the pistons slapping the head.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...pression+ratio
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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what would the compression be with 82mm p30 pistons?
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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http://www.c-speedracing.com/
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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92 octane stay under 12.5:1

and a 82mm on a b18 will not last long you weakend the cylinder wall alot. anything over 81.25mm id recomend sleeve.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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82mm is fine. It's a bad tune that will kill the motor here, or stock rod bolts in an LSv.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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I was reading somewhere that the cspeed and the zeal autowerks calculators were innacurate.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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only when using CTR/PCT pistons in the calculator is it really off. You're using P30's.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Default Re: Building 82mm ls/vtec few concerns?

Originally Posted by tempsohc
I dont know exactly how the compression calculators(c speed,zeal) are coming up with there compression numbers without knowing the flow characteristics of my motor.
This is really confusing. What do "flow characteristics" have to do with the static compression ratio?
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by revhardallday
92 octane stay under 12.5:1

and a 82mm on a b18 will not last long you weakend the cylinder wall alot. anything over 81.25mm id recomend sleeve.
Quit repeating what you heard from other inexperienced people.
I'm driving a 81.5mm bore build with over 110k miles and another motor I built for my buddy is running a 82mm bore build with over 75k miles, and our motors are both on stock sleeves.
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Ramen
This is really confusing. What do "flow characteristics" have to do with the static compression ratio?

Flow characteristics have nothing to do with static. It has alot to do with dynamic. Why i was asking is what efficiency did they decide to base the static compression on?
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 02:35 AM
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CTR pistons should only be used in a B16 because their domes are so high. When they're used in a B18vtec they hurt the flame travel in the cylinder. Basically they divide the combustion chamber in half.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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Default Re: Building 82mm ls/vtec few concerns?

Originally Posted by 92civiceg9gsr
CTR pistons should only be used in a B16 because their domes are so high. When they're used in a B18vtec they hurt the flame travel in the cylinder. Basically they divide the combustion chamber in half.
What if it's an LS or B20 vtec with a B16/ITR head? How is that any different than a B16B?
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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Default Re: Building 82mm ls/vtec few concerns?

Originally Posted by revhardallday
92 octane stay under 12.5:1

and a 82mm on a b18 will not last long you weakend the cylinder wall alot. anything over 81.25mm id recomend sleeve.
I build a couple of 82 set ups for years daily drive with no issues at all I can say anything over 82 is when u actually need sleeves.
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