How much whp can a stock internal b16jdm handle with just arp boltS?

 

around the 250whp area. it really depends on what condition the engine is in though. i've seen many people run around 320whp with stock internals but i have a feeling its going to blow up soon

 

Depends on the engine's condition and how hard the driver is to the thing. 250 - 400 whp.

 

LOL, thats funny...

I got TWO buddies that are running 300+ whp bone stock B16's and one has been for 2 1/2 years (335 whp), the other 1 3/4 (315whp). Got a feeling theirs gonna blow up soon too?

OP, tuning is key, homie. Yes, it does depend on the condition of the engine and also how you drive and take care of it, but good tuning goes a long way when the motor is healthy.

 

it's all in the tune. i'd be happy with anything between 275-325.

 

Tuning is the Key. I am 330+whp with my stock block B17 (same as b16)

 

How many psi w/o breaking the sleeves?

 

11-14 psi with a good tune should be enough for a stock sleeves. I wouldn't try anything higher then 14psi. My friend old set-up ls-vtec with a gt30 was around somewhere in the 330.

 

Cft made 900 whp stock internals but it depends on the tuner and how good the engine is i kno this might sound redicals but if kno1 think this is true go on youtube and type in cft .its a blue si

 

Dude I'm going to call BS on this one, 900whp on stock b-series internal. I seen the video on there and it said 345.

 

Helll no I'm not blind it made 900 whp go look at the video again its when the si is on the dyno and at the end it tells u about the engine look at all the videos with the blue si look until the end I'm not lyin.

 

we were pushing a little over 400 whp @ 20psi on E85. it had arp head studs and a 0.074 inch cometic head gasket. went to the track quite a few times before he went ahead and built it.

 

to the op...

i seen boosted b16's make from 300-360whp...

arp headstuds and thick headgasket are your friend, also, a great cam upgrade for cheap that will help you make power with that b16 would be gsr cams, but you need valvesprings and retainers for gsr as well...

i seen a b16 civic with gsr cams thick hg and arps make 366hp 291 tq
heres the video link http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9...-jdm_75919.htm

also, i have never seen cft's si civic make 900hp.... i seen a built gsr make 553whp but not 900 b16 sooo idk, maybe im blind but ive seen almost every video cft has...

show me the link of cft's si with a b16 in it id love to see it

 

There's also the stock d16z6 that raced near 400hp (420hp on a boost spike IIRC) for several seasons, so lets not nit-pick over rare examples.

The AVERAGE is what you want to concern yourself with. Everyone wants to think they're special, but the majority of the motors fall under the "average" category. 250-350whp will work with most stock B16's, given good tuning and a permanent wideband to prevent running it lean. I've seen a few B16's shatter their sleeves above those numbers, and anything over 300whp without a decent suspension will only be useful in 4th gear.

 

I'm on my phone can't show u the link but just watch all of cft video with the blue si at the end of the videos it tells u

 

I just left church's dyno and we made 262 on 8.5psi pump gas, 310 on pump gas at 14psi and 378.9 on 17psi on f&l race fuel. Ran out of injectors dsm. Stock sleeves, je pistons and eagle rods. Stock gsr head. Car runs great. Customer car.

 

theres a guy on here with stock internals made 419whp it does 11.3 in the 1/4 look for he's thread

 

Psi doesnt matter in some cases, it all depends on the particular turbo that is used. If the OP is shooting for 300 whp and has a little T25 or T3 super 60, it may take 20 psi to reach 300, as in a big GT-35R, it make take 10 psi.

If the OP has a healthy motor, an efficient setup, a reputable tuner and he right turbo selected for his power goal, he can be happy with 250 to 325 whp for a long time.



Homie, save yourself the further embarassment. IF you are talking about the blue Si in the first vid on CFT's search results, that car made 904 whp with a fully built and sleeved K motor, not a B16. There is a build thread on here that CFT made about a year ago. Furthermore, there is NO WAY bone stock cast OEM B16 pistons & rods will handle the extreme cylinder pressures of 900 whp. The other blue Si on that page made 354 whp.

 

cft also had a built gsr in that blue si made 553 has the song linkin park breaking the habit playing but this was 5-6 years ago when they did that, theyve had the k20 in the si for quite a long time now...

back on topic

 

it honestly depends on a few very important things

first is the condition of the motor, a leakdown and compression test should be done, if the motor is not in excellent condition to start with the extra stress of the turbo will just destroy it very quickly

2nd is the setup, it should be efficient, usually this means ramhorn/top mount manifold, 3"dp/exhaust, GOOD CATCH CAN SYSTEM, etc etc

3rd is the tune, dont cheap out on software or the tuner, you get what you pay for and this is just as important as the motors health and the setup

all of these parts are the most important aspects of having a reliable setup (whether it be stock parts or aftermarket)

 

Im using the same gasket,ARP head studs and Block Guard @ 20psi too but using Q16. I changed from Nitrous set up to turbo w/ the same parts but no stock internals.(Wiseco 11.5-1 CP/81mm,Eagle Rods) pushing +/- the same 400hp w/ boost leak. Coming soon more dyno tune w/ 8psi more ... Im using a .50/63 57 trim turbo

 

running bone stock b16 with 13psi 300 whp, 198ft/lbs .... 2 years no leaks no probs!

 

Nice!!!!

 

The only reason why i said that is because he beats on his engine constantly, and doesnt know what the hell he's doing...

 

Alpha tuned 392whp Stock B16 block with Stock GSR head

http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/in...ad-392whp.html