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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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Dont think ive seen the 10s on any cars.....has anyone ever ran them what back space did u use.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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i don't know of anyone that has run them yet but interested in seeing them tried out

use the 6" backspacing, i may order a couple of pairs for stock to get them out there a little bit to see if they are advantageous at all, i know we saw a difference going from the 8" to 9" with short track traction, i would imagine with the sidewall on the MT 24.5" slick they would work well on a 10" wheel too
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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gettin them soon......that super tech v-train worked great i was in there with omar a while back
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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We made a few 13x10 for a couple racers already on our Forged wheels. One of them is Franklin from Avid. I'm not sure if he ran on those yet. But 5" backspace is the most you can do on a 13" wheel with stock suspension.

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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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r those 10s with the 5 inch backspace
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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The ones I did for Franklin are 13x10 with 5" backspace 4x100. Need a front end with it though to make it look as good.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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We made a few 13x10 for a couple racers already on our Forged wheels. One of them is Franklin from Avid. I'm not sure if he ran on those yet. But 5" backspace is the most you can do on a 13" wheel with stock suspension.
all the 15x10 weld guys are running the 6" backspacing, no clearance issues at all

10" wide wheel, 6" backspacing = +13 offset
10" wide wheel, 5" backspacing = -12 offset
9" wide wheel, 5" backspacing = 0 offset
8" wide wheel, 5" backspacing = +12 offset

so what is the clearance issue on the 13x10 with 6" -- caliper ?
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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ok sounds good thanks a lot......Lenso's what a joke!
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Innes
all the 15x10 weld guys are running the 6" backspacing, no clearance issues at all

10" wide wheel, 6" backspacing = +13 offset
10" wide wheel, 5" backspacing = -12 offset
9" wide wheel, 5" backspacing = 0 offset
8" wide wheel, 5" backspacing = +12 offset

so what is the clearance issue on the 13x10 with 6" -- caliper ?
FML.......I have integra brakes on it
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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15" have more clearance at the top. 13s sit lower on the suspension and doesnt have as much clearance. You know how the spindle curves. the lower part is closer to the hub and as you go higher up, it bends farther in.

You can still do a 13x10 with a 6" backspace, but you will have to run a spacer with it. From what I measured awhile back, with a 5" backspace on a 13" wheel, there's still about 3/8- clearance til you hit the spindle.

In most cases, backspace doesnt have to do with caliper clearance. Caliper clearance is more on the wheel center design. Whether the spokes curve enough to go around the caliper. Some wheel centers are even Flat to the hub mounting surface so you have to put a spacer to clear the caliper. When you have that type of design and you have to run a spacer, thats where you compensate in the calculation of your backspacing. Since you know you're going to move the wheel further out with that spacer, you have to figure your backspacing with those factors in mind.

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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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ok sounds good thanks a lot......Lenso's what a joke!
LOL and whats that mean.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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ive had them forever but there only 7.5 wide the tires grow so much that it throws the car in the air when i leave it looks like a fuel car when it does a burnout.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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Thats what slicks do during a burnout regardless of the wheel. The tire grows regardless of the rim width.
When you look at slick specs from the manufacturer, it even tells you to put the tire on a wheel that is less than what the tire size is. Putting 9" wide tires on a 10" wide rim isnt even on the manufacturers recommended rim size. Thats just peoples personal preference.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Innes
i don't know of anyone that has run them yet but interested in seeing them tried out

use the 6" backspacing, i may order a couple of pairs for stock to get them out there a little bit to see if they are advantageous at all, i know we saw a difference going from the 8" to 9" with short track traction, i would imagine with the sidewall on the MT 24.5" slick they would work well on a 10" wheel too
Interested in this also...
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ExospeedAMcrx
Thats what slicks do during a burnout regardless of the wheel. The tire grows regardless of the rim width.
When you look at slick specs from the manufacturer, it even tells you to put the tire on a wheel that is less than what the tire size is. Putting 9" wide tires on a 10" wide rim isnt even on the manufacturers recommended rim size. Thats just peoples personal preference.
correct kinda.....rim width keeps the tire from growing period......when speed of the tire increases the tire will try to grow to the width if the rim. not sayn that the tire wont grow on10in rim. But it will keep the (shape) of the tire better than a undersized rim like in my case.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by hello1320
correct kinda.....rim width keeps the tire from growing period......when speed of the tire increases the tire will try to grow to the width if the rim. not sayn that the tire wont grow on10in rim. But it will keep the (shape) of the tire better than a undersized rim like in my case.
yeah, umm, no.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ExospeedAMcrx
Thats what slicks do during a burnout regardless of the wheel. The tire grows regardless of the rim width.
When you look at slick specs from the manufacturer, it even tells you to put the tire on a wheel that is less than what the tire size is. Putting 9" wide tires on a 10" wide rim isnt even on the manufacturers recommended rim size. Thats just peoples personal preference.
Can u run 9" tire on a 10" wheel
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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Can u run 9" tire on a 10" wheel
Yes you can. It will stretch the actual tire and contact patch.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by hello1320
correct kinda.....rim width keeps the tire from growing period......when speed of the tire increases the tire will try to grow to the width if the rim. not sayn that the tire wont grow on10in rim. But it will keep the (shape) of the tire better than a undersized rim like in my case.
people do not understand that tire exspantion plays a key role in trap speed and shift point. I wouldn't be suprised if Gato Felix Medina has a set of 13x10's with his 9.5 mickey t's. I ran a 13x9 bogart wheel with MH 25/8.7's and 5" backspace and as per what MH John stated to me always stay within 1" of size between your wheel width and tire width. 13x10's I do not seeing being a big issue aslong as the offset is ok with the right spacer. Really suprised guys havent opted towards the wider rims.
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people do not understand that tire exspantion plays a key role in trap speed and shift point. I wouldn't be suprised if Gato Felix Medina has a set of 13x10's with his 9.5 mickey t's. I ran a 13x9 bogart wheel with MH 25/8.7's and 5" backspace and as per what MH John stated to me always stay within 1" of size between your wheel width and tire width. 13x10's I do not seeing being a big issue aslong as the offset is ok with the right spacer. Really suprised guys havent opted towards the wider rims.
You mean 9.5 is the M&H.

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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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You mean 9.5 is the M&H.

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That's going to be my next tires when my MH 25/8.7/13's finally quite grabbing.
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You mean 9.5 is the M&H.

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Haha right on John Never leave home without my M&H's
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by miller
Yes you can. It will stretch the actual tire and contact patch.
Like the man said... That's why 10.5 Outlaw guy's run a 16 X 12 or 15 X 12 rim.
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by YZFR6AVID
Like the man said... That's why 10.5 Outlaw guy's run a 16 X 12 or 15 X 12 rim.
right on......
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by YZFR6AVID
Like the man said... That's why 10.5 Outlaw guy's run a 16 X 12 or 15 X 12 rim.
The fast outlaw 10.5 cars run 16 x 16 or 16 x 15 wheels. The contact patch on a 10.5W is 12". They can get away with that by using a beadlock wheel to keep the bead from floating off at high speed, and the tire size has a ton of sidewall. A lot more than a 24.5 tire.
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