Nobody!!!!

It is still a live and kicking. All around the country I see Import racing groups doing well hosting sport compact events.

BOTI, IFO, NSCRA, and many more are all stepping up to keep the ball or should I say slick rolling.

Thanks to all those who are doing their part to keep things marching forward.


Dan and Dave Zientara at the Turbo School.

 

dan, the internet is what killed sport compact racing.

 

post like this are killin it, lol

it never died just weeded out the BS $$$ people that were here to get rich & got back 2 the grass roots.

 

i just wish they where 2 day events not just a one day event. alot of driving for a 1 day.

 

People taking sponsorship money and never racing.

 

The list is long if you really look at who killed it.But in the other hand many local tracks and groups or organizations like the ones mention before are helping to keep it more in the spot lite.And the more local events the better is for the low budget racer.

 

2 four letter words! NHRA and NOPI but our sport is not dead! its coming alive! and i still miss nhra and nopi races!

 

I think it was the H/R Cobalt that went 7.5's. That guy was a real jerk for doing that.

 

That is like saying the econmy is back to normal and the unemployment rate not through the roof. I really hope you are not comparing sport compact racing today as to where it was a few years ago. While the "sportsman racers" have stepped up and the classes have grown and made great strides it is no where near it use to be.

Take for example the HR class. Steve tried all year to get a group of cars out to run a bunch of races on the east coast and who all showed up?

There are no pro cars at the events because there is no class or money for them to race. I don't see a national series traveling around the US.

The local tracks have put on great events and have focused on the sportsman racers, which is great, but if you walked around fall nats this year and compared it to a few years ago it is night and day difference.

 

Hahahahaha! That's funny

All joke aside, the sport compact racing is going strong atleast down here in Florida with the amazing help of the guys from the NSCRA & IFO!

So for the guys that still complain, stop complaining & get you *** to the events!


Don't miss the NSCRA Finals Dec. 5th & 6th @ Palm Bay International !


Fernando @ CFT

 

that was good gary!

 

I have a list of people that caused some issues in the SC drag racing community over the years, from sponsorship deals commitments to just not showing up and racing. How many cars were built and and put on display at sema and never showed up to the track.

Right now it is somewhat alive because of the sportsman classes, they are the ones spending money and showing up to the races.

 

Egos are whats going to f*cking killing sport compact racing. Everyone wants to push it to the limits for their own personal benefit.

 

Prolly since that same guy didnt know how to lose, so nobody wanted to build H/R cars to run for 2nd place.

LOL

Its hard to point at a single cause surely we have all pointed fingers one way or another and discussed it over and over, but it doesn't solve anything. Sportsman classes have definitely stayed alive the love for the sport shows when most of us dont make much money and cut the finances thin just to make it to the next race or go that .10 faster. There are plenty of SFWD type cars out there and still many in the works. One day i might make it out ive only said "next year" for maybe the last 5 years.

BIG props to those that still support the sport and the events that keep us at it.

 

If there was one thing to take it to the next level, what would it be? Better axles? Seems like a lot of you guys could go quicker and faster if the axles could take it.

 

Doesn't matter how fast you go if there isn't any competition.

 

A good friend of mine spent over 80K to get a Honda ProFWD ready to race that year NHRA pulled out. He finished it 2 months before the season ended so he was just banking on coming out the following year. The end of that year came and NHRA cuts SC racing.
I can't imagine the situation he's in. Dumped money on something he cant even really bring out for the purpose he built it for. I really hope those Pro cars make a comeback in some series in the future. Many of those cars have been built with the best parts so they wont be really get obsolete for many years.

 

SC racing is not dead. It is also NOT what it was a few years ago. But neither is the economy. I am seeing some new cars being built to come out soon and I have been to a few events this year myself. Next year it will be a little better, especially if the economy starts turning around. A few years ago the people that used to spend money on their cars started having to dig deep just to put gas in their cars/trucks to make it to work so they could make some money to pay bills, buy groceries, etc and there was no room left in their budget to buy parts, much less pay to travel to an event. When your wife is looking at you and you barely have enough money to pay bills, are you going to buy parts or even go to an event? I think having a national series would be a good thing if done right. Have the racing on tv within a few hours, kind of like ESPN2 does with NHRA Full Throttle racing. Get the general public interested in it and want to see it and learn more about it. Proper promotion for the "big boys", have maybe 3 or 4 "big" classes. Then you could have the sportsman side of things and have a smaller series, kind of like Lucas Oil for the NHRA.

On the realistic side of things, Cliff has done good things with the IFO series. The NSRCA is doing a good job on a more local level and BOTI is still putting on good events. I wish there was some way to get more exposure and I believe that interesting tv would help to grow it again. I am not talking models and car show stuff, but maybe model it after some of the professional coverage of the Full Throttle series. Let people get to know who is participating, become fans, tell their friends and set their DVR because they want to see us again. NSCRA is getting a little TV exposure which is awesome. Oh well, maybe I am delusional.

 

CARB killed Import Drag Racing.....because of them police forces all over california now pop your hood and tow your car

That and too many people trying to do too many things at once....we need ONE sanctioning body with ONE set of rules....when we have 3-4-5-6 series going at once how are you supposed to race a full schedule from one series?

Maybe the answer is regional runoffs at the end of the year with fewer racers representing their regions at the big show.

I dont think small teams have the funds to travel all over the country in a points chase....if they could run in their backyard most of the year and only make one big trip at the end for the final I think more teams could do it.

Just my take being a racer on a budget.

 

its def strong down here,im worn out with all the racing we been doing and 3 more events in the next 4 weeks!!!!!!!

 

GM and NHRA killed the sport, funny how it's called "Sport Compact" it was and will always be "Import Racing" but of course they had to call it something else to allow them to participate.

 

The Honda scene has always been the same and growing. Its still alive and well. NHRA and corporations just made it big too soon and too fast. They tried to make it evolve to what they wanted it to look like without looking at the consequences. (Can't blame them 100% since no one knew what was to happen years down the road). Looking back... things moved too quickly for what the sport was ready for.

 

u know i really don the scene being dead at all..in fact i think its going in the right direction if u ask me....companys are making products that are worth buying and at good prices...think about how it was long before...im only 21 so i really cant say much about what it was back in the day..and the only imports i knew when i was younger was nissan z cars and the nsx for the simple fact that my father and grandfather had the z cars and my neighbor had a nsx...and look at hard it was to modify your car way back then...the support wasnt there and the excuses from v8 guys wasnt either...nowadays its so much easier and people are pushing the envelope more and more...think about it u can now spend around a good 7 grand have a good 11-13 second car..you know have a car that can hang with them v8 boys that spent 2gs on a shortblock from jegs alone..so what if u break a axle if its not the end of the world just be sure to have a extra set with you when u go to the track

 

Lets see you do it again in legal HR trim? You can Run A 74mm like Hondas. But when you do it you attend one of the Hotrod Events that I have prepared in the East coast Hotord series.

 

- Yes, and it goes both ways. You get the racers always wanting to go faster, voting against any rule changes to keep things sane.
- And you have the guys who have never been to a race, whining about the fastest cars, wanting those cars to have more restrictions.

- Let's learn from the demise of Hotrod and the shrinking of SFWD.

-Hot Rod could have stayed on 26" tires, Chuck want 8.2 at 180 or whatever on the 26" and that's very fast. Less breakages, cost, etc.

- Look at SFWD, Its ridiculous to have a 72mm turbo in that class. It's a nice class now, but it used to be so much bigger. People are breaking gears and bell housings left and right.

- Now's the chance to go a little more toward grassroots. People are proposing a 67mm turbo class. That's a step in the right direction, but I'd suggest that we go right down to 62mm.
- This would get all of those GT35R cars out to the track, and allow the new Precision 6262, and even the SC61's if there are any of those still around.
- 2400 lbs, between this and the smaller turbo, breakage will be way down. People will remember what it's like to have fun at the track again.
- The class will still go high-mid 9's all day on the 62mm turbos, if they have the rest of the car set-up well.

-I'll say for the sake of honesty that I'm helping out on a couple cars that are or will be running a 62-67mm turbo. So some of my suggestions are slightly biased, but then again, these are the same reasons that I suggested these set-ups to the owners.
- If you guys want to - make the class 2300# like Jason Miller, (that's 200# less than us), but I'm not whining since it is better for the class (less breakage) - so go for it.

- No matter what turbo size is decided upon, I'd suggest to make sure to limit to a T3 footprint, and to spec the turbine wheel.
- That way people don't go buying GT42R turbine/67mm compressors again.

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