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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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The Battle of the Imports will be offering a new class for the 2010 season. “After closely observing the last few seasons, we have noticed the need to address the existing Street Comp class and decided it was time to add an Outlaw version,” commented Frank Choi, National Event Director. The new class will be called Outlaw Comp.

Thanks to CTRParts.com, Midnight Performance Race Clinic and RTO Specialties, this class will be offered as a beta class at the 2009 season finale event at the Auto Club Dragway located in Fontana, CA this Sunday November 22, 2009.

The basic rule structure will mirror the existing Street Comp class with the following changes:

Turbochargers will be restricted to a maximum size of 72mm.
Air to water intercoolers will be permitted.
Maximum size for drive tires will be 26-inches tall and 10-inches wide. “W” tires are not permitted.
Minimum weight with driver is 2,400 pounds.

For 2010, the traditional Street Comp class will also have the following minor changes:

Turbochargers will be restricted to a maximum size of 67mm.
Air to air intercoolers only.
Maximum size for drive tires will be 25-inches tall and 9-inches wide. “W” tires are not permitted.
Minimum weight with driver is 2,200 pounds.

“The addition of the Outlaw Comp class will bring more parity to the already competitive Street Comp class,” added Choi. Additional rules will be announced in the near future.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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we are glad to be involved in this new era frank. 20 years and still going strong, this will be alot of fun next year! I have spent alot of time working on this with frank i hope everyone enjoys the new classes!
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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and they said "i dont want to build a car for 2 events a year" glad to see yall are steping up, ill make sure to make any east coast events
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 11:21 PM
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Nice, I'm excited to see this!

I'm glad to see the Street Comp class being kept to 25", air-to-air, and 67mm with the lower weight limit for next year.

We have a ton of guys up here that would love to run this class but can't afford to build the level of car it takes to compete with the cars currently in S/C that are already very close to the Outlaw format.

On that note, I personally would love to be able to run my D16 in the S/C class next year and be able to be somewhat competitive with the B-series guys in the class. Is there any possible way that we could get a 100lb weight break (2100lbs) for the D16 engined guys so that we can compete? I know for a fact that allowing this would bring the field counts and attendance up tremendously. There are tons of guys building the lower budget D16 platform that would actually step it up and run a heads-up class if it made sense for them to even try.

I have spoken to Frank about this in the past but it didn't really go anywhere at the time. Hopefully now is the right time!

Quick question though - who is going to be competing in this "beta" Outlaw class at Fontana with 3 days notice?

You can't just throw some 26's on a S/C car setup for 24.5's at the last minute and expect it to work well, otherwise we'd do it!
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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this class is to benifit the up n coming generation to be able to come out and compeate on the lower budget, i believe there will be further rule revisions to keep this class competitive and have pairity at all boti races!
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by A train
this class is to benifit the up n coming generation to be able to come out and compeate on the lower budget, i believe there will be further rule revisions to keep this class competitive and have pairity at all boti races!
Sounds good. You are right on track with your thinking and trying to encourage the younger guys just getting into it by having a class that doesn't require as large of a budget.

IMSTAR's True Street class rules already have a weight provision for the sohc cars, with an extremely generous "no weight limit". It would be great if BOTI would do something similar to allow the even lower budget D-series guys to compete as well, as you just can't make anywhere near the same power levels with a D.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 12:39 AM
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Whats the payout for these new Outlaw Comp?Not everyone wants to spend the extra money run this Outlaw class than making Street Comp run 67mm turbos next year is BS entry level races should in bracket classes even fast cars with smaller turbo are still fast.Chad is going to happen to CMI to next year???????????
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JFK78
Is there any possible way that we could get a 100lb weight break (2100lbs) for the D16 engined guys so that we can compete? I know for a fact that allowing this would bring the field counts and attendance up tremendously. There are tons of guys building the lower budget D16 platform that would actually step it up and run a heads-up class if it made sense for them to even try.
+1, I also think it would put a few more D builds on the track.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 02:34 AM
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great addition!!
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 03:48 AM
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Good stuff!
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 04:04 AM
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Nice.. Any news on schedule yet?
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 04:08 AM
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This could get interesting, how many east coast events will there be for next year?
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 04:13 AM
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Nice move Frank
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 04:27 AM
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I would also love to see the 100-150 lb weight break for the D-series boosted applications. See you soon, Frank.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 05:03 AM
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Great idea, but damn! I'm racing this weekend, and have no 26's. I'll wait to compete in this class next year.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 05:05 AM
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Awesome! Now I can do something other that show my car at BOTI. How about allowing a 10.5 non "W" tire?
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 05:24 AM
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For 2010, the traditional Street Comp class will also have the following minor changes:

Minimum weight with driver is 2,200 pounds.

“The addition of the Outlaw Comp class will bring more parity to the already competitive Street Comp class,” added Choi. Additional rules will be announced in the near future.
I think the 2500lb minimum weight was alot better due to this being a full interior class. Doesn't force people into building crx's just to be competitive. Even changing it back to 2400lbs just like the outlaw class would make things more even.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 06:22 AM
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This is awesome.Steps in the right direction.

What east coast events do you have lined up for next year? I know MIR right?
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 06:27 AM
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I think this is an excellent step as well. I too would love to see thw 100lb weight break for the D series/SOHC guys. And possibly a race in the SouthEast/East Coast somewhere
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 06:52 AM
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This sounds great but a minimum weight of 2200 with driver? I am over 200lbs in an integra. Kinda hard to compete with crx's. I say bring the minimum up to 2400 as well.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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Im with JFK on this one help out the single cam folks this would bring a whole new following of people out to these events.....Damn I might just stick with the single lol
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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awesome!!! good move sir... cant wait for next year...
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 07:46 AM
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Hey Frank how much are these turbo companies giving you for a kickback on turbo sales?????? Its rediculous. So every year are we expected to see a turbo restriction so you can get a kickback when we all have to buy new turbo's?
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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What are you talking about kick backs? If you have a 72mm run the outlaw comp and if not run the 67mm class it just makes sense.


As far as the single guys getting a weight break, **** that. It will make it all to complicated at the scales. It was your choice to build a single cam, nobody elses. There should be one weight for the class. One weight for all cars, weather its a b, k , neon, whatever. It is up to you to make your combo work.

I do think 2200lbs is to light as it should be somewhere along the lines of 2400lbs.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by miller
What are you talking about kick backs? If you have a 72mm run the outlaw comp and if not run the 67mm class it just makes sense.


As far as the single guys getting a weight break, **** that. It will make it all to complicated at the scales. It was your choice to build a single cam, nobody elses. There should be one weight for the class. One weight for all cars, weather its a b, k , neon, whatever. It is up to you to make your combo work.

I do think 2200lbs is to light as it should be somewhere along the lines of 2400lbs.
I dissagree there Chris, we all know a D can compete with B's and K's. Look at the displacement of the engine. It's only a couple of more weight's to worry about. Give the guy's that work the scales some credit. I think they know that different car's competing in the some class can weigh different, just think about NHRA Comp let alone Super Stock and Stock.

The D's need a weight break, it just makes sense to increase the car count.

Don't tell me your worried about getting beat by.... a single cam....?
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