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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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Default JDM Type S camshaft on stock H22A1....?

I find a set of JDM type S camshaft for a reasonable price. And I was just wondering if it possible to run it in a stock H22A1 motor without having to change the valve, retainer and etc.........???????? Will it due any damage to the motor........?????? Any suggestion or advise........is appreciate it............
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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i have a friend who did it, not sure if he upgraded the valvetrain or just bought new OEM ones, but it runs and works well on his fairly stock h22a.
hope that helps somewhat.
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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FAQ's are your friend. You gotta change the valve train.
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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Alrite, Thanks guys....
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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PS Don't waste your time.
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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Default Re: JDM Type S camshaft on stock H22A1....?

how much more power are you looking at for type s cams? and where would you go about finding a new valve train?
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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will used cams require a break in period in your engine?
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type S camshaft on stock H22A1....?

Originally Posted by srm238
will used cams require a break in period in your engine?
As in before they BREAK your engine? Answer is NO.
Search around some though, there have been some issues blamed directly on installing TypeS cams in NON TypeS heads.
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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They will eat your rocker pads up over time. There's a thread on this here on HT.
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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^^ I believe you can only install them in the JDM motors.. not the US? (without eating rockers) somebody correct me if wrong.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 06:09 AM
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Default Re: JDM Type S camshaft on stock H22A1....?

IIRC it has something to do with VALVE ANGLE 45* vs 60*
I never spent much time reading into it after seeing 3-5whp gains that criss cross in the powerband compared to stock cams.
People have installed them and HOPED for huge gains.......There's NO logic to it because a PTS/ATR only makes about 15-17whp more than a Black-Top H22 and the extra power comes from Cams, Pistons, Head porting, Intake manifold.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type S camshaft on stock H22A1....?

since the skunk 2 have more lift wouldnt they damage the rocker more? and i believe i have a jdm prelude but how do i know for sure if its jdm or usdm>? i did some reading and MikeLuder seems to be right... Though there is not a common consensus that even on a usdm that type s cams will wreck your engine.. though it has happened to some
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type S camshaft on stock H22A1....?

Originally Posted by MikeLuder
^^ I believe you can only install them in the JDM motors.. not the US? (without eating rockers) somebody correct me if wrong.
I ran type s cams on a jdm head for about 3 years with no incident. The type s head has 2 angles cut into the valve seat of the head. The angles are 45 and 60. This improves airflow.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type S camshaft on stock H22A1....?

type S cams are a waste of money. You will not see the full benefits on a stock block and they are not the best cam on the market either.

If you are going to do camshafts choose the cam shaft that would suit your long term goals rather than putting something in your car because it is "Type S".
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type S camshaft on stock H22A1....?

Originally Posted by 94vtirozguy
type S cams are a waste of money. You will not see the full benefits on a stock block and they are not the best cam on the market either.

If you are going to do camshafts choose the cam shaft that would suit your long term goals rather than putting something in your car because it is "Type S".
I agree. Like Nirvtec stated, The Type S 220 hp also comes from Higher compression, lighter pistons, ported/polished head, polished IM, larger TB, and ECU tuned differently. Not just the cams. Good call guys.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type S camshaft on stock H22A1....?

Yeah, I'd go Skunk2 Pro camshafts. I've seen some good dyno graphs with Skunk2 cams & simple bolt-ons here on the net.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type S camshaft on stock H22A1....?

IMO you'd be thrilled with S2 Stage1s even with a stock valvetrain.
I have run this setup on my DD for ~5yrs/70k miles tuned with a VAFC.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 02:43 AM
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Default Re: JDM Type S camshaft on stock H22A1....?

Originally Posted by NirVTEC
IMO you'd be thrilled with S2 Stage1s even with a stock valvetrain.
I have run this setup on my DD for ~5yrs/70k miles tuned with a VAFC.
where were the gains with the S2S1's? across the range/up top?
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 03:04 PM
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Default Re: JDM Type S camshaft on stock H22A1....?

Originally Posted by pheurton-skeurto
where were the gains with the S2S1's? across the range/up top?
Although I have been accused of being incorrect, power was gained from 3500-7500rpm with the stock VT and untuned cam gears. 12-15whp/10-12tq on my JDM H22A
I guess it could very well be NOT having a very good tune Pre-S1Cam and then tuning the whole setup.....although I don't think this is the case because we compared it to a stock cam'd H22 on the same dyno.
Very worthwhile for the $550 I spent........considering my h/e combo was only worth 15whp/9tq at twice the price.
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