I was having a conversation today with Joe Simpson @ Tempest Racing about this 67mm Turbo class, called True Street... I'm currently doing some changes on the my car and really thinking about putting on these 67mm turbo's on and go racing in this class. Could this be the new SFWD? Or it already is and I'm just old, lol...

 

It is a more affordable class. But the class is already very fast. Our True Street CRX just went a 9.62 @ 153 on a stock trans and stock AXLES!!!

 

i love true street, although we hung with the big boys at e town in SFWD this fall, losing in the finals.

we are still on the slower end of that class, still being t3 frame, but i have always wondered what a 67mm 24.5 class would be like.

i had a blast at WCF, qualified 9th, but pulled out of competition for a broke tranny.

my car has been a best of 9.98, and with seat time, and help from jeff evans, consistent 9.8x shouldnt be unrealistic.

as long as i dont keep breaking trannies. part of that i think is my fat ***, and heavy car.

 

is the crx light blue? any more pics/info on the rex?

 

What would prevent this from becoming another expensive 8 second class? You would need more restrictions than just a 24" tire and a 67mm turbo.
I'm not knocking the class, I think its a cool idea, but that's the reality.

 

last year at import vs domestic in true street i went 9.45 with a 67mm turbo and stock trans. with the car weighin 2450 with the simplist setup u could think of.

the class is pretty fast i think this year fastest car was a mustang with a 9.5x.

but then again you always have your complainers like every other class for when someone goes too fast. i had that happened to me last when i went the 9.45 guess someone didnt think my turbo was legal so they had to come measure it


true street is awesome and if they actually had class for it other then at import vs domestics i would go to alot more races. they might already have a class for it but i just didnt really pay attention to it much this year cuz my car wasnt running. i just hate that the fact that when u got to some races and they have sfwd class and there allowed 24.5 and 72mm its jus kinda a blower cuz those cars are capable of so much more. 67mm will only make but so much power. ill still prolly go to alot more races next year cuz i really couldnt this year cuz i blew it up testing. but i will be back out next year with another 67mm.

 

those arent the only 2 rules. they are just the big ones. and yes with time will come innovation, but unless the weight is 2000lbs i doubt youll see an 8 sec pass on a 67mm im not saying it is impossible, but 67mm 2300lb 24.5 is a good foundation. competition was very tight in wcf this year.

 

its only one event, WCF.

 

I definitely think that this is going to be an awesome class I wondering if 67mm turbo sales will increase? LOL...

What 67mm turbo out there is the one to get for this class?

 

I run the class. The turbo I use is a T4 Borg Warner 366 .83 ar. I guess the best one would be the the T4 BW 366XL.


This class is only going to get stronger. I am sure next year there will be some more 9.50 mustangs that are very consistant.

 

That would be a nice class

 

i was #3 qualifier at WCF and we def need more imports to kick them dom. guys butt. we went a 9.97 but i couldnt get the car to boost any higher then 31lbs and it would bleed off.so i know at 36-40 itll go a .40-.50 dailed in.Not to metion i had to run the boost pack each pass because battery wasnt taking a charge. I my set-up is super simple even using a b16.

 

You have to remember there are 2 IMSTAR events at MIR also through out the season that have this true street class.

What needs to happen is parity among the races/events/promoters. World Cup rule book for every single privateer event. It is by far the best rule book out and will put more asses in the stands and cars in the lanes every race. Anyone who was at world cup will attest to what I am saying.

You will never get most of the sfwd guys to change their turbo's unless you really start to push the class this way.

It has been talked about for years and this 67mm class would be awesome. Just needs a weight limit.

 

I dident make it to the IMSTAR events. But If it was setup anything like WCF I am sure it was awsome.

The True Street class kind of reminds me of a faster nopi "power street" with better rules. we used to limited to a bfg tire. and no turbo size. Then they gave us a Bias ply and a 67mm turbo. No one really got the hang of in because it dident stick around to long.

I was always down for the 61mm turbo class but it seems that no one around here wants to go mid 10's anymore. 9's or bust.

I would love for the BOTI and IFO evens to have the "true street" class. But I dont know if this would bring more cars in or just kind of split the SFWD class up now.

Next year I am sure that True Street will be full of 9.50 cars. and a 10.0 will be number 16 in the field.

 

I love the idea of a class with smaller turbos where people can run with less breakage.

Joe is having a lot of fun with his 35R street car, and I bet that, knowing what he knows *now, it will go 9's. (It went 10.0 4 years ago)

The class would work well with a 67 or a 62mm turbo limit. 62 would cover the popular new precision 6262, the 35R, and the old SC61's. A 67 class would cover the old style and the new billet 67 turbos, the BW366, and the GT40R.

If you're looking for more restriction and cost savings, keep it all T3. The manifolds will be cheaper to make.

2300-2400#, 25x9" tires. Safety equipment.... etc

 

Drag radial class would b where its at. Everybody that makes any kinda power would have a chance. 9s on a radial would b sick

ive gone 9.8 with a sc61 and that was 3 yrs ago..2350lbs

 

God damn it Ricky, why didn't you tell me so I could see it?! At Cecil? Tell Taylor congrats bro!

 

May it would be a better street class if cars were restricted to 62mm turbo,pump gas, and drag radials and car must be regs and inspected be current in order to quaifiy?
Just a thought?

 

Aren't guys saying that the drag radials break more parts? That's my biggest concern.

Pump gas, if that includes E85, then sure!

 

you guys are getting way off topic.

 

True street was moving this year. I was #5 on Saturday then when Sunday rolled around i got bumped way down to 11th. I could NOT get the car to boost. Im sure i got a line off some place still. But we had the 3 Supra's in the class. 2 of the Mustangs where going 9.5X consistent. It was a fun race and good competition for sure.

But i def will say when me an Taylor lined up something was up with that tree! I wanted to see him move on into the finals. I'll try to upload the video of the run. Taylor was talking to me in the pit's after the pass an he was like whats up with the tree? I said dunno man then later saw the video and none of my yellow lights came on and on his side it went all at once then red? I can't remember right but on video you can def see the tree do 2 different things at once for each side.


Nice chatting with you guys in the white hatch from Jersey too! See you all next year.

 

I think a 61-64mm class would be great but that would be splitting hairs. I'm mainly thinking of restricting turbo size so they can be more lenient with the rulebook when it comes to weight. 67mm cars are still making 700+whp and combined with a 2300lbs. weight limit, drivetrain components are falling apart and most of the True Street guys aren't prepared (or in some cases, able) to part with $6K+ worth of drivetrain upgrades i.e. gearsets, axles, etc. Perhaps a 61mm class with a 2000-2100lbs. weight limit and 24.5" tires? WCF could always use another entertaining turbo class and it would be more budget minded. We can call it "Timid Street" lol!

 

I agree.

 

This kind of worked in nopi power street. everyone was on a 225 BFG and dident matter if you had 900whp. There are only 2 cars that went 10.7 it was the clutch master integra and Jim Hucks?(fell off face of earth) I went 11.001 on the BFG the biggest problem in the class was that they let awds in on any tire. and a fast DSM on any tire can go 10.00's

This would kind of work except for the Pump gas and "reg and inspection" thing. If you "know" someone that can get you stickers you can get them. Hell my civic is inspected (emissions too!! lol) and there is no exhaust. The pump gas thing is never a good idea. every time this gets brought up its just gets squashed.

This is very true. There are not many people that can run a good time on a BFG without breaking something
Hell NOPI gave the DSM guys a Drag radial and none of them ran it because they couldent make it down the track?
Wouldent 61mm @2000lbs be similar 67mm@2300lbs? that could be a 9.80 car right?

 

Exactly my point, less power, less weight but still similiar E.T.'s with alot less driveline breakage.