Accord Rear Shock Perch Height
I think this topic might've been covered in the past, but never really confirmed, so I thought I'd chime in.
I have a 1994 Accord EX wagon and lowered it with Tokico's HPK213 shock/spring suspension kit, made for 1990-97 Accords. I installed them in the wagon, only to have the boat look. The reverse rake was pretty bad; the rear was pretty slammed with no fender gap whereas the front still had some gap. The headlights were aimed into the air and anything more than one passenger in the rear made the tailpipe scrap over any driveway curb.
I did some research on HT as well as other sites and realized that Honda changed the perch height on their rear shocks during 1994-1995. This change is reflected (from my research) only with a few aftermarket suspensions supplies, such as H&R. I asked H&R why this was the case, and like others who've asked, they never gave an answer. Reading some more, I found that in 1996, Honda went BACK to the perch heights that they had been using from 90-93. With higher perch height comes shorter springs.
I decided to swap my rear OEM shocks back on, while keeping the Tokico springs. Before putting everything together, I compared the shocks and sure enough, the OEM perch height was .75" higher (as measured from the lower mounting point) than the Tokico! After the swap the wagon looked a LOT more level.
My question now is, besides the perch height, might Honda have changed the shock tower height as well? Removing the shock/spring on my 1994 technically makes it the same as 90-93s and 94-97s, so if my tokico package was applied to the other models, would they suffer from the boat look as well?
In any case, this was some observation I wanted to share. thanks for reading.
I have a 1994 Accord EX wagon and lowered it with Tokico's HPK213 shock/spring suspension kit, made for 1990-97 Accords. I installed them in the wagon, only to have the boat look. The reverse rake was pretty bad; the rear was pretty slammed with no fender gap whereas the front still had some gap. The headlights were aimed into the air and anything more than one passenger in the rear made the tailpipe scrap over any driveway curb.
I did some research on HT as well as other sites and realized that Honda changed the perch height on their rear shocks during 1994-1995. This change is reflected (from my research) only with a few aftermarket suspensions supplies, such as H&R. I asked H&R why this was the case, and like others who've asked, they never gave an answer. Reading some more, I found that in 1996, Honda went BACK to the perch heights that they had been using from 90-93. With higher perch height comes shorter springs.
I decided to swap my rear OEM shocks back on, while keeping the Tokico springs. Before putting everything together, I compared the shocks and sure enough, the OEM perch height was .75" higher (as measured from the lower mounting point) than the Tokico! After the swap the wagon looked a LOT more level.
My question now is, besides the perch height, might Honda have changed the shock tower height as well? Removing the shock/spring on my 1994 technically makes it the same as 90-93s and 94-97s, so if my tokico package was applied to the other models, would they suffer from the boat look as well?
In any case, this was some observation I wanted to share. thanks for reading.
Another thing to keep in mind is your wagon's weight distribution is probably a bit different than coupes/sedans, especially in the rear where you have more glass and additional weight. That could also contribute to the "boat look"
Personally I would have gone with custom rated spring set from like ground controls. And gotten a bit stiffer in the rear than the suggested for coupes/sedans.
Personally I would have gone with custom rated spring set from like ground controls. And gotten a bit stiffer in the rear than the suggested for coupes/sedans.
I had thought long and about something like Ground Controls, but I did not want to spend anymore money on this vehicle. I'm pretty content with the way it rides now, and putting more than one passenger in the back won't squat the rear as much.
The Honda shop manual says the wagon's a few pounds shy of 3000lb, which is pretty surprising. I don't recall how much the sedans/coupes were, but it wasn't lighter by that much.
I also think Accords from the factory come with a bigger gap in the front than in the rear, even if the car sits level.
The Honda shop manual says the wagon's a few pounds shy of 3000lb, which is pretty surprising. I don't recall how much the sedans/coupes were, but it wasn't lighter by that much.
I also think Accords from the factory come with a bigger gap in the front than in the rear, even if the car sits level.
I had thought long and about something like Ground Controls, but I did not want to spend anymore money on this vehicle. I'm pretty content with the way it rides now, and putting more than one passenger in the back won't squat the rear as much.
The Honda shop manual says the wagon's a few pounds shy of 3000lb, which is pretty surprising. I don't recall how much the sedans/coupes were, but it wasn't lighter by that much.
I also think Accords from the factory come with a bigger gap in the front than in the rear, even if the car sits level.
The Honda shop manual says the wagon's a few pounds shy of 3000lb, which is pretty surprising. I don't recall how much the sedans/coupes were, but it wasn't lighter by that much.
I also think Accords from the factory come with a bigger gap in the front than in the rear, even if the car sits level.

And yes the front fender is cut higher than the rear, giving the boat look with an even lowering job. However you experiencing that much of a drop in the rear leads me to believe it's more an issue of spring rates. Did you order ones specifically for the wagon or generic 94-97 ones?
The springs were all packaged with the shocks, which were all packaged with the front setup as well. The kit was, as Tokico says, applicable for 1990-97 Accords. It didn't have any of the "EXC Wagon," which lent me to believe the wagon was part of the mix as well.
However, even with the
I've seen more than enough people disappointed with the look after modifying their car, so I thought I'd chime in about being wary of the different perch heights.
However, even with the
I've seen more than enough people disappointed with the look after modifying their car, so I thought I'd chime in about being wary of the different perch heights.
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