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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 06:35 AM
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well is time to choose my mngtm system and like everybody else budget is tight. so my question is since the s300 is the most affordable system out there i was wondering what are the limitation of this system?
the car is being prep for sfwd class.
any input will be helpful.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 2CAMSVTEC
well is time to choose my mngtm system and like everybody else budget is tight. so my question is since the s300 is the most affordable system out there i was wondering what are the limitation of this system?
the car is being prep for sfwd class.
any input will be helpful.
thx.
If you are on a budget, this is by far the best thing you can use. I wouldn't change mine for anything but Motec M800. I just can't spend $8000 when this one works so good. Wait a minute, I can't spend $8000 anyway.LOL
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 07:04 AM
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its limited to using a distributor, but does work well with the factory dizzy, unlike some standalones. it also doesnt have as many datalogging abilities that a system like motec does.

on a budget its an excellent system to use.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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Plenty of guys are going deep in the 9's with it, so it does work. It obviously doesn't have the ability to do coil on plug or datalog everything under the sun, and it is designed around the hardware of the factory ecu.

I don't think you can beat it for the price, if that's what you're asking.

More importantly, ask whoever is going to tune the car what they prefer, as the best system in the world isn't going to do you any good if the guy tuning it isn't experienced with it.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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Will boost by speed ever be an option on Hondata? Not boost by gear....
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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Default Re: limitations of hondata s300??

they could add it if they wanted to or if it was requested enough.

It datalogs enough for more than enough racers out there.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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Yeah, the datalog feature on the s300 is very good, there are just a few more things I wish it could do. I'm just gonna get a racepack for that.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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I love my s300 but have been looking into www.vi-pec.com ask Joe from Tempest Racing about them. Not as expensive as Motec but does alot more then s300..

Plug and play!
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 10:55 AM
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Default Re: limitations of hondata s300??

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I love my s300 but have been looking into www.vi-pec.com ask Joe from Tempest Racing about them. Not as expensive as Motec but does alot more then s300..

Plug and play!
The only limiting factor I see with an S300 is the person setting it up and tuning it if you are on a budget it will serve you very well.We have been running Vi-PEC's for 16 months in our track cars one of the best ECU's around today they have alot of features and very well priced and yes Plug'N'"Play for Honda's,
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Default Re: limitations of hondata s300??

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I love my s300 but have been looking into www.vi-pec.com ask Joe from Tempest Racing about them. Not as expensive as Motec but does alot more then s300..

Plug and play!
After reading a bit about the ViPEC I knew the website looked real familiar.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Yes, for those who have seen the original Autronic website would recognize this, because Ray Hall, who was the distributor for Autronic, is now in charge of the Vi-PEC.
Vi-PEC is manufactured by Link, which is a bigger company, with more engineers and support available.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by locash
Plenty of guys are going deep in the 9's with it, so it does work. It obviously doesn't have the ability to do coil on plug or datalog everything under the sun, and it is designed around the hardware of the factory ecu.

I don't think you can beat it for the price, if that's what you're asking.

More importantly, ask whoever is going to tune the car what they prefer, as the best system in the world isn't going to do you any good if the guy tuning it isn't experienced with it.
well actually im gonna be requesting your services when im done with it... so WHAT DO YOU PREFER SIR???
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by turbotypeR@SPEC
Yeah, the datalog feature on the s300 is very good, there are just a few more things I wish it could do. I'm just gonna get a racepack for that.
yeah but to use a race pack without an engine management that is plugs right into, youll spend $2500 instead of $1300 to log stuff. LOL

That stuff is crazy expensive.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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Default Re: limitations of hondata s300??

I know someone that has gone 9.0's alot that uses Hondata. I am sure the car will probably go 8's on Hondata, unless he changes something, obviously. This is in an outlaw/SFWD style setup.

Hondata S300 is a good system. Personally, I have Neptune RTP (Demon) because it is the only system I could afford that I can plug my Macbook into. I am not sure of the differences between S300 and Neptune Demon, but I dont think its something marginal.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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Default Re: limitations of hondata s300??

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I know someone that has gone 9.0's alot that uses Hondata. I am sure the car will probably go 8's on Hondata, unless he changes something, obviously. This is in an outlaw/SFWD style setup.

Hondata S300 is a good system. Personally, I have Neptune RTP (Demon) because it is the only system I could afford that I can plug my Macbook into. I am not sure of the differences between S300 and Neptune Demon, but I dont think its something marginal.
K-Pro is in another world compared to S300....
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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Default Re: limitations of hondata s300??

Originally Posted by nonvtecallmotor
K-Pro is in another world compared to S300....

could K-pro ever be used with the B series Engine, if it were given a coilpack setup like the K's?

i've never tuned a car or so, but the only major difference i see that would affect tuning programs between the 2 engines are Coilpacks and VTC gears right?
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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Default Re: limitations of hondata s300??

the only difference in kpro and s300 is the cam angle adjustments, thats really the only difference between engines anyways mechanically. of course kpro uses individual coils.
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 07:26 PM
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why not go eCtune and the demon? cheaper than the s300
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Default Re: limitations of hondata s300??

Originally Posted by nskforlife
could K-pro ever be used with the B series Engine, if it were given a coilpack setup like the K's?

i've never tuned a car or so, but the only major difference i see that would affect tuning programs between the 2 engines are Coilpacks and VTC gears right?
Ive thought about this as well.
wonder if there is a way to adapt the B series crank sensor to work with Kpro.
If that is out of the way you need the Intake and exhaust sensor. figure out a way to adapt those to a b series.
What else would be needed for it to work?
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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Default Re: limitations of hondata s300??

Originally Posted by nonvtecallmotor
K-Pro is in another world compared to S300....
Naaaa, definitely not talking about Kpro. Talking about Hondata S300.

Here is a quote from awhile back in a thread where I posted up a couple pics of the car and he replied with a basic rundown of the engine setup.....

Originally Posted by airshifter

84mm LS V RLZ spec Wiseco customs, stock crank, manley rods
AEBS sleeves by Z10 no o-rings
Type R cams
4 - 1600cc precision injectors
s300
42r

That setup has went 9.0's alot with S300.

Car weighs around 2300lbs

It also uses an old Liberty gearset that he couldnt get parts for.
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Old Nov 13, 2009 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RedneckRicer
Ive thought about this as well.
wonder if there is a way to adapt the B series crank sensor to work with Kpro.
If that is out of the way you need the Intake and exhaust sensor. figure out a way to adapt those to a b series.
What else would be needed for it to work?
I have been saying this for a long time now! They can make it work on the d17 engines why not a b series???
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