can someone help me with wuts the difference with these?

 

SH- Don't get it. Its has a device on it (ATTS) that controls the traction of the front wheels went turn sharply in a corner. Basically what happens is when you go into a corner fast the ATTS will apply more power to the inside wheel, thus giving you more traction.
-Standard rear spoiler
-Painted side skirts
-Standard 5 sp (sorry women)
-5 spoke wheel
-and neato Type SH sticker.
I say don't get one becuase of the notorious history is has with turners and modifing the suspension compontents. Don't know the exact technical details, but sometimes technical problem do arise if you choose the lower an SH.

Base.
No options from above.
-Either 5 sp or 4 sp tip-tronic auto.
-Same 2.2 liter, DOHC, VTEC engine. (H22A4)
-easier to modify w/o problems.

Those are the main ones, I find it point less to list, "comfy" feature as they don't enhance performance.

 

you can take corners fast as hell in the SH, and i mean fast. but they are a maintenance pain compared to the base.all the hondas tech i knew said they end up having more problems cause of the atts.

 

If you like to have fun and throw the car around, get the SH, not to mention it's a little rarer. If you wanna have to brake for the turns instead of gassing it through em, then by all means get the base, not to mention, you'll be just like everyone else.


[Modified by cybercrx00, 2:32 PM 8/31/2002]

 

actually, the extra power is applied to the outside wheel.

There isn't really a notorious history at all......i have yet so see or hear about an ATTS failure because of engine mods, and I have yet to hear about ATTS failure due to lowering.

the only problem you may have with lowering the SH is because the drive shafts are shorter because of the ATTS....causing increased wear on the CV boots if you lower too much...but that's like 2" or more.

If you're planning on lightly modding the car......get the type SH....if you're going all out on the motor and going for over, say, 280 HP, then just to be safe, get the base. But Jackson Racing has been supercharging an SH for over a year at 275 HP with no ATTS problems

 

exactly what I was about to say...

Is there anybody with solid proof that lowering or doing suspension modifications 'screws' up ATTS or is it a myth made up by people who dont have an ATTS Prelude?? same thing goes for supercharging/turbo.

As for differences in the 2, you best do a search, this topic has also been beaten do death.

 

about the only real problem I have heard is that going much over say 300+ hp, the excess wheel spin can sometimes trip the ATTS to shut off, which then requires you to shut off the car and turn it back on. about the only real difference is it would drive like a normal car. I'm not sure how true this is though, since I've spun my wheels plenty, , and have yet to trip the ATTS light

 

im never said sh's are notorious for being more maintenance after being modded or lowered. i said they are more of a maintenance pain period. that means stock. i sold the damn things and i was good friends with all the honda techs that fixed them, i know what the techs had to say about them. they loved them just like anyone else, but they are more of a maintenance pain and have more problems then a base. so you can all say what you want, but ill take the word of certified honda techs who loved preludes just as much as i do over the word of anyone else.

 

Certified Honda tech took four visits to replace the throw-out bearing in the tranny, they just changed the fluid the first three times, I told them the bearing was seized. Guess who was right? Certified Honda techs also could never figure out the problem with the creak in my suspension, for the last 25k miles it has been making it, it's still there. I don't trust a single mechanic who sits in a room, watches a movie and then is certified. They are just like any of us who work on our own cars, just they get a helms.

 

no kidding.....I'll take the word of a Type SH owner who's driven it EVERY DAY for 3 yrs over a honda tech. I brought my Type SH in for service to the local dealer....i was new to the area. Service MANAGER asks for my stats...."98 Prelude Type SH" i said......"S what?" he replies.

after that, they put her on the lift for an oil change......."where's the filter? and what's this unit here"......"that's the ATTS" i pointed out......i basically had to tell them what it did and how it worked.

I drove my Type SH lowered for 2 years....absolutely no problems whatsoever with the ATTS.....and I've never had a problem with the ATTS EVER.....i have 80,000kms, i drive the crap out of the car, drag, autocross, 3 winters.....

 

i dont' know where you got that 275hp from for a jrsc lude sh. my SH is supercharged courtesy of jackson racing, and i'm only puttin down 230whp. if you're talkin about crank power than 275 may be attained. but i'd guess that about 20% of hp is lost by the time it gets to the wheels, so i'm probably gettin 265ish at the crank. i haven't tuned my car yet so those numbers have potential to mprove.

btw, 8 months with the supercharger on my 1.75" lowered SH, and no problems with the ATTS so far. the only thing holdin me back from tackling all these corners to the limit is my shitty-*** tires.

 

ok fine, allow me to rephrase my comment. i would only trust 3 specific honda techs that worked at the dealership i sold at cause they were die hard honda fans and knew exactly what they were doing, all award winning techs either with honda of amer. or on their own modding their own cars. as for other techs youre right most of them suck, i would give a dime to honda techs out here in cali. happened to find 3 very good and trustworthy mechanics who also happned to be honda techs and they know their ****.

 

sorry, i should have been more clear.....i meant 275 crank HP, or about 230 wheel HP