i just a 89 crx and i need some info about gettin it bar'd .. can u tell me exactly what i need to get it bar'd? since its a obd0 i need a obd1 ecu im a noob.. but the motor i'm tryin to get is jdm b16a thanks

 

last i checked california will no longer bar jdm motors... search my friend, search

 

you can't bar that motor in a ef chassis anymore...if you want to bar a b16 motor it has to be from a USDM vehicle...!!!

 

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...t=ref+b16+obd0

 

You can bar a jdm motor, just make sure all the purge solenoids are hooked up. when I got my crx bar'd they didnt even check my ecu just under the hood. I didnt even have a carb legal intake and I passed

 

Replacement Engines
Entire engines can be replacement parts. As with any other replacement part, the engine must be identical to the original. If the replacement block or engine is obtained without emissions equipment, all the equipment from the original engine must be installed on the replacement block.If the engine is not identical to the original then it is not a replacement part, instead it is considered an engine change.Engine changes are a modification that must meet certain requirements to be legal (please see "Engine Changes").

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I would like to know where you got your info from that says that it is legal to bar a jdm motor because i sure in hell cant find it in writing
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/replace.htm

 

I didn't need it in writing, I got it bar'd and that's all that mattered to me. I took the motor out last week and put it in a DC, Im going back to the ref next month.

 

Maybe SD ref's r easier then the ones in Riverside

 

The sausage is correct. no more getting jdm motors bar'ed in our EF's. for those of us who have already done this before it was banned your cars should now be worht more, LOL.

OP for less of a headache just trade your motor for an LS or a usdm B16a3 and try your hardest to source a P30. good luck

 

you might be enjoying the bar sticker in the car today but the law is the law and it was never legal to begin with...it is just until a few months back that the state started to enforce the original laws in the book...it doesn't matter if a ref passed you then it isn't legal now and any ref who passes a jdm motor is breaking the law.

not that i really care if you passed or not but my point to be is that a jdm motor is not legal to bar but can be used as a replacement motor in a USDM automobile that offered a similar type motor in it's generation of vehicle...!!!

 

I got it bar'd in September

 

ok what motor did you pull out of a crx and put in an DC? i would like to see a picture of your ref sticker

 

I took the b16 out of the crx and got it bar'd for a LS. They put the new bar sticker over the old one, but I'll take a pic when I get the b16 bar'd in my DC

 

LOL, i seriously want to see you BAR a b16 in a DC. how will the ref bar a smaller motor in a chassis that is supposed to have a bigger motor.

 

i shall await your picture

 

i spoke with a ref here in the i.e. and he told me not to believe the internet (cause i asked him about jdm motors being legal) , he also told me in order to pass my b18c that i would need to convert my crx to obd1 at the ecu, injectors, distributor, and i would need all smog emissions hooked up he also told me that i can keep my type r header, because it came from an integra but i need to have the heat shield on it....... well if it is true about the jdm motors being illegal then i guess we'll find out cause after doing my friends ls swap i'll find out tuesday morning

 

whats wrong with having an LS swap?

 

The San Diego ref said as long as all the emissions are hooked up u will pass. He said that's all he has to check for. They don't smog u at ref station out here, they just give u the sticker and it's free

 

how are they bar'ing you if no test is done??????

 

i smell something wrong with a ref who will not smog the car for BAR purposes. just visual check. idk

 

if thats the case ill drive my happy *** down to san diego and get it ref'd there,but i know b.s. when i see it

 

same here, HEY ALL K-SWAPPED EF'S HEAD DOWN TO SAN DIEGO FREE BAR STICKERS!!!!


but seriously i think not.

 

Believe what u want, but they don't smog out here. They just do a visual. I thought they were gonna smog my car , but starting this year they don't smog. Do they smog ur car up north??

 

Go to Miramar College that's where I get mine bar'd. Do they charge u guys to get bar'd??

 

BAR'ed cars are supposed to be smogged as proof that it conforms to the legal emission laws for that motor.