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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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since i'm not getting nay help in other section i guess ill post here

my car's weird when i shift to first its hard to get in, not the buttery feel. And it's also hard to get into reverse and sometimes it looks like it's in but its not. and when my car is moving when I shift to first, it has a grind noise.

So what do you guys think it is that's making it such a hassle.

Oh, I forgot to say sometimes when I'm shifting to first it's sometimes easy to get into and sometimes it's hard to get into.

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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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How many miles are on your transmission? How old is the clutch? Have you checked the master and slave cylinder for leaks? Have you recently replaced either the master or slave cylinder?
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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Your syncros may be bad.
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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Honestly, that's kind of always how my car has been. You might just have a beat up transmission. I've also never had a car that didn't jam sometimes instead of going into reverse. If reverse is being annoying you can shift into other gears, or roll the car slightly, you can get the tranny gears to line up and let you into reverse.
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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i just bought the car a month ago. so i dont know much about the car
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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check your master cylinder and slave cylinder....most likely leaking..had the same problem w/ mine..get a flash light and look by the clutch pedal where the master cylinder come through the firewall to see if brake fluid is leaking or pull the rubber boot off the slave cylinder and see if fluid is leaking
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by VPUPPY
How many miles are on your transmission? How old is the clutch? Have you checked the master and slave cylinder for leaks? Have you recently replaced either the master or slave cylinder?
I'd look into the mileage and condition of your transmission, clutch, master and slave cylinder. Sounds more like the problem is going to result in you needing a new transmission. Do you have any other issues while shifting in the other gears?

FYI you are never supposed to shift into first gear while the car is moving, it's bad for the transmission.
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 05:33 AM
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Are you stepping on the clutch?
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 05:40 AM
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check your master cylinder and slave cylinder....most likely leaking..had the same problem w/ mine..get a flash light and look by the clutch pedal where the master cylinder come through the firewall to see if brake fluid is leaking or pull the rubber boot off the slave cylinder and see if fluid is leaking
True, but wouldn't that will result in a soft, and non-responsive feel from the clutch pedal?
I would assume the tranny is bad. Look around for another tranny.
Oh! get a gsr tranny!!! Shorter gear ratios, and you will be surprised how well the LS engine response to the gsr tranny.
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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I'd look into the mileage and condition of your transmission, clutch, master and slave cylinder. Sounds more like the problem is going to result in you needing a new transmission. Do you have any other issues while shifting in the other gears?

FYI you are never supposed to shift into first gear while the car is moving, it's bad for the transmission.
What if I'm rolling at 1-5 MPH should I just complete stop and start over then?

And it's weird sometimes when the car is still sometimes I can shift into first smoothly, then sometimes its little rigid getting into there.
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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What if I'm rolling at 1-5 MPH should I just complete stop and start over then?

And it's weird sometimes when the car is still sometimes I can shift into first smoothly, then sometimes its little rigid getting into there.
Second gear.
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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What if I'm rolling at 1-5 MPH should I just complete stop and start over then?

And it's weird sometimes when the car is still sometimes I can shift into first smoothly, then sometimes its little rigid getting into there.
Shift into second gear or come to a complete stop and then use first gear.

I would think when your attempt to shift ino first gear and it feels rigid it's when you first start the car up and it hasn't warmed up yet, No?
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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Okay I may get flamed for this but here goes... Check your shifter bushings. When I installed my short shifter I had one of the bushings in kind of funky but didn't notice it and it gave me the same issues. After a bit of looking at the components I realised it was twisted a good amount causing my linkage to sit wrong. I may be wrong, but it's only $8 for the set, so what do you have to lose?
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Okay I may get flamed for this but here goes... Check your shifter bushings. When I installed my short shifter I had one of the bushings in kind of funky but didn't notice it and it gave me the same issues. After a bit of looking at the components I realised it was twisted a good amount causing my linkage to sit wrong. I may be wrong, but it's only $8 for the set, so what do you have to lose?
I'd look into everything while trying to resolve your issue, nothing can hurt.
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Your problem is somewhat similar to mines.I had a leaking clutch master cylinder and changed it but it didn't solve my problems.Change the transmission fluid and it was still the same.Pretty sure you and I are headed towards a new transmission because my first gear grinds when my motor warms up so I have to constantly put my gear into second before going into first or else first will grind every time.My reverse is sometimes hard to go in too whether the motor is warm or cold.Pretty sure your syncros are bad and I'm pretty sure if you listen to your tranny it should have a pretty recognizable loud whining noise.
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ILS_09
similar to mines
I'm sorry, not to be a deushe cause you seem decent and are trying to offer your experiance, but I absolutely hate that word. MINES is not a word and it makes you sound rediculously ghetto. No diis.
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by darkstarsinner
I'm sorry, not to be a deushe cause you seem decent and are trying to offer your experiance, but I absolutely hate that word. MINES is not a word and it makes you sound rediculously ghetto. No diis.
I understand.Everyone has grammatical errors or typos.I don't always have time to proof read what I write.By the way, I believe the use of slang on Honda-Tech is ghetto itself lol.To add to that, some of your words are spelled wrong and correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Honda-Tech has a spell check built into its system.Ironic isn't it?LoL.
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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LOL it is sort of funny criticizing someone else's writing while also making five spelling errors

BTW, another thing you could try is to change your transmission fluid. It isn't really much harder than changing your oil and there's a possibility it could help your shifting. I just did mine and my shifting is a little smoother.
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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Damn!!! man i thought i was the only one with this problem! but yeah mine is a bit different, i get a smooth 1st but 2nd @ 3rd are the one's giving me problem sometimes they are smooth and sometimes they are rough. oh and 5th man every time i shift to 5th it kicks it back to N!! and cant shift back. Guys can you help me!
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by darkstarsinner
I'm sorry, not to be a deushe cause you seem decent and are trying to offer your experiance, but I absolutely hate that word. MINES is not a word and it makes you sound rediculously ghetto. No diis.
I'm sorry, not to be a deushe (comma missing) cause you seem decent (comma missing) and are trying to offer your experiance, but I absolutely hate that word. MINES is not a word (comma missing) and it makes you sound rediculously ghetto. No diis (period missing)

No diis, I'm just bored.
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ILS_09
I understand.Everyone has grammatical errors or typos.I don't always have time to proof read what I write.By the way, I believe the use of slang on Honda-Tech is ghetto itself lol.To add to that, some of your words are spelled wrong and correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Honda-Tech has a spell check built into its system.Ironic isn't it?LoL.

Lol yeah. Like I said I wasn't trying to be an *** it just seems like every post I read lately has "mines" in it. And how does your H-T have a spell checker? Mine doesn't, I only have basic options.


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LOL it is sort of funny criticizing someone else's writing while also making five spelling errors .
His spelling wasn't the question. I could care less if he mis-spelled anything but the word "mines" makes me cringe when people use it.

Originally Posted by -PaulMc-
I'm sorry, not to be a deushe (comma missing) cause you seem decent (comma missing) and are trying to offer your experiance, but I absolutely hate that word. MINES is not a word (comma missing) and it makes you sound rediculously ghetto. No diis (period missing)

No diis, I'm just bored.

I had a period at the end...
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 02:19 AM
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Lol, no it is warmed up. It's pretty much random sometimes its hard to get into first from complete stop then I put it back to neutral and put it back to first its smooth. And could it be my bushings where can I find that? And how much do short shifters last? I have one and could it be that? Last thing I want to worry about is buying a new tranny =X! Forgot to say my clutch squeeks when I press it in.

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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 05:37 AM
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Personally, I can't wait for my tranny to go. Because then I'm getting an ITR with LSD :D
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Lol, no it is warmed up. It's pretty much random sometimes its hard to get into first from complete stop then I put it back to neutral and put it back to first its smooth. And could it be my bushings where can I find that? And how much do short shifters last? I have one and could it be that? Last thing I want to worry about is buying a new tranny =X! Forgot to say my clutch squeeks when I press it in.


You can find the shifter bushings at just about any online shop. I bought my Energy Suspension bushings from Assaultech for like $8. Did you put the short shifter in?
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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The whole thing about spelling error, no comma here, period there =
Guy needs help with his tranny. Look guy, buy a new/used/rebuided(LOL) one. End of story. Not to be an *** but your problems can be fixed, or can only be replaced. Unlikely it would be his clutch master cylinder. That would result in a soft pedal, or a dead pedal. Is there an aftermarket shifter? Check the bushings.
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