Ive dones searches on these builds and i keep hearing more and more poeple saying that this is not a good build i wanna know why. Ive only heard a select few say that its a good swap for the car. I know the specs of a b16 wouldn't more horse power, higher compression, and matted with the same b16 trans. make a da faster than the b18

 

it's a good build if you build it properly same goes for any motor.It's just that some motor has more potential than others in terms of big big hp.

 

The same reason why people don't like B16 DC Integras. If you're going to do a swap, do a real swap. B16's are ment for Civics, Del Sols, ect.

 

not to mention DA's are heavy.....b16's have low torque numbers....there's a reason acura started making tegs with 1.8's

 

I had a GSR and now I have a B20 in my integra. I HATED the b18c1 for daily driving, you had to rev the living **** out of it. My B20 is perfect, more torque, broader powerband, pulls out of corners stronger on the track...

I couldnt imagine doing a swap and putting a B16 instead of a B18 or higher in an integra...

 

B16 was first put into an DA Integra.

 

I have a b16 in my 4dr DA and love it, there's now way a b18b will touch me. Ive beat a DC GSR and held a h22 prelude. The b16 is just a fun lil motor, I feel vtec "cracks" harder than the b18c1 so if your tight on money, a b16 will sourly put a smile on your face haha. And not to mention you can put a b16 in a DA for like 1000 bucks if you use the LS trans.

 

^^? why would you use the LS trans with the b16???

 

Not many likes the b16 since it's made for lighter cars. Everyone likes the b16 transmissions though. It really wakes up the b18a and b18b.

 

If you're on a budget, you can pick up a first gen b16 w/o trans for 800 bucks, the matching b16 tranny is nice but not required. Not everyone has money to drop on that sort of thing. I have the ls tranny in mine, and as I DD it its fine, the long gears are kinda fun, but I will be getting a b16 tranny and drop my 5th gear into it soon.

 

There's no replacement for displacement. 200 mL less displacement is 200 mL less a/f mix to combust in the cylinders. Even though you can build a really strong B16, you'll always be weaker than a larger engine all else being equal.

 

Correct, but if we look at it that way no one would drive Honda's, we'd all be in v8's lol. Were talkin out of the box, just dropped in. Not built.

 

Not to be arguementative-But why would Honda make a DA6 originally with the B16A in the XSi and the RSi?

IMO the B16A in the DA is a good swap, but more work to get power out of it compared to a stock GSR (B18C) that, as mentioned already comes with more HP

 

i got a 91 rs with a 91 b16, fully gutted, and the jdm b16 trans. with type-r gears. Im almost on the road i just need an exaust for it im hoping its going to be faster than the b18a1. I agree with d16 why would honda make a jdm da with a b16 in it if it wasnt a good swap?

 

because they have become smarter over time.....imo the only part of a b16 that should touch ur da/dc is the head (not a fan of the trans either too short of gears). Its a 1.6L with no torque. Put a b18c1 in there with bolts ons and ull love it a hell a lot more then a b16.

 

b16 trans > LS tranny

 

Just throwing this out there the DA integra in the U.S. is pretty unbalanced with the stock B18a and standard LS tranny. In Japan the DA Integeras were (as previously stated) built to have a 1.6 in them. The performance model (Integra Xsi) had the B16a. Basically the JDM teggy had less weight in the front than our U.S. teggy and had a better balance of weight front to back making it more agile on the track. This agility cannot be accomplished with a B18C.

 

b16 on b18a not built right will most likely cause problems on the future...

 

i hated vtec and loved my b18a, b18b, zc's and h23 motors but then i got my da with the b17 and its the most fun car ever... imo if your like me and dont have a lot of money the b16 is more than enough to have fun in and if you build it right over time it can be even better

 

agree with this. they should have just used the b18c5 on all the sport model tegs. gearing and torque production is so much better for DD

my only bitch about the b20 is the short life if you rev up stock ones

 

IMHO an LS motor is just fine. You can spend the money on a swap or you can spend it to boost the B18A1. You can hit mid 400HP on stock internals with around 16psi (granted this isn't wise to do all the time). As far as any of the swaps go, a motor is a motor. The agility, drivability, and longitivity is entirely up to the owner of the car and how they care for the rest of the vehicle. It takes more then just a motor to make a great car.

 

A B16 is a perfectly acceptable and fun swap for the 2nd gen integra owners, I personally just finished a B16 SiR II Swap from hondamotorsonline.com (HMO) into my 91 Integra. Although its a downgrade from my built ls/vtec with CTR pistons, I wanted something reliable that I could still have fun with and the B16 is perfect for someone on a budget looking for a gooding motor to start with.

In regards to this post lets look at some numbers.....

1992 Civic Si Hatchback-----> Curb weight 2326 lbs
1992 Civic EX Coupe----->2390 lbs
1999 Civic CX Hatchback---->2395 lbs
1999 Civic SI Coupe--->2612 lbs

and the "HEAVY" 2nd gen teg weighs in at.....drum roll please.....
1991 Acura Integra RS-----> 2560 lbs

With some weight reduction in a 2nd gen teg your almost the same weight as a little hatch. You can argue with me that 200 lbs is going to make or break the motor swap decision but wait.....a 2nd gen teg is LIGHTER than a 99 Si which comes stock with a B16.

Bottom line is that for the price you pay a B16 swap it will definately be fun in a 2nd gen integra and can be a good building block for a moderate build. Slap in some CTR pistons and some cams and your in for a fun ride. AND DONT GET ME WRONG, I am a huge fan of 1.8L and 2.0L builds, but I'll save those for my weekend warrior and keep my reliable and spunky B16 for my commuter car.

 

Just got my exaust and i need a new gas tank hopefully ill be on the road in a couples weeks. Im more stoked on my swap now thanks because im definatly on a buget i hope i have a good strong motor i spent some cash replacing everything in it. Im also happy to hear that im going weigh in near the same weight as a hatch with everything ive taken out.

 

Nuff said haha.

 

not bad b16's are torqueless and u need torque to move.