Ok I have a JDM B16A. And my starter is grinding on my flywheel. I replaced the starter brand new, but I didn't replace the flywheel wich is pretty beaten by the starter and I was told to replace it. So.... do you guys have any suggestions for a good street/track flywheel and clutch?

 

Stage 2 Competition Clutch and Fidanza light weightflywheel

 

There's been many threads like this but I'll give my input.

Go for an Exedy clutch/flywheel that fits your set up.
An Exedy Stage 1 Racing clutch paired with an Exedy Racing flywheel would do you wonders.

 

im in the same boat, i need a good clutch and flywheel combo

 

I'd get an Exedy Stage 1 and a Fidanza flywheel the lighter the better IMO.

 

i have an exedy stage 1 and a clutchmasters 7lb flywheel and i love it! i have a DA and it is my daily

 

Whats the difference between the stage 1 and stage 2?

 

why in the world are you guys suggesting he buy a stage 1 or 2 clutch on stock b16a? a plain oem replacement clutch like the one exedy has paired with a fidanza flywheel will cost you something like $280 shipped from gripforce. stronger clutches really have no use when you can't even slip an oem style. if the car is boosted, on slicks, or you beat the clutch stupid it could be another story. if not, save your money.

 

the way i see it, i would lean towards getting at least a stage once as it will help out later on in case he starts doing some mods or swaps engines. a very slight amount of overkill, but good to have just in case...just my opinion, though.

 

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I've got an OEM replacement Exedy clutch, and even though the clutch is plenty strong for the car, the pedal effort is not. The pedal depresses *much* more easily than stock, and I'd prefer a more stock-like pedal effort. For that reason, I wish I'd gotten a stage 1 instead. Otherwise, the OEM replacement + fidanza flywheel is great.

 

^ YES...I agree. I had the same set up in the old teg(except the flywheel) and grabs harder that a teenage boy during puberty.

 

I had a Competition Stage 4, sprung, 6 puck, regular pressure plate. Holds good power for future upgrades and pedal feel is great for the street.

I also had the Comp 12lb flywheel which felt great, especially on a boosted car.

You cant go wrong with Comp, period. My friend had an exedy and because its a 3 puck, when it engaged, it wasnt as smooth.

My other friend had an ACT, with fidanza 9 lb flywheel, upgraded pressure plate, 6 puck, and it also felt good, but that heavy duty pressure plate made the pedal super stiff. It was kind of a bitch for daily driving.

Comp stage 4 and you wont have to upgrade ever again...

Holds 420lb/ft of torque so thats plenty more than you will ever see on a honda. Great customer service and great product, you cant go wrong.

 

Thanks to all for your input.

 

The Exedy STAGE 1 is a Full FACE Disc. (PRICE $269.00)



The Exedy STAGE 2 is a 3 puck Copper Ceramic. (PRICE $406.00)






Now for my 2 cents..... I highly recommend the EXEDY RACING CLUTCH KITS over the EXEDY OEM and I'll tell you why.... Although what (idrivesideways) says is true, the EXEDY OEM is enough to hold the power of any B SERIES motor B16-TYPE R with practically any bolt-on (150-180 WHP) It does not provide a quick and efficient power transfer from the FLYWHEEL to the WHEELS like the EXEDY STAGE 1 OR BETTER YET STAGE 2! This is due to the lack of "Clamp load" (Definition of CLAMP LOAD: The amount of pressure that the clutch plate has during engagement against the disc.) This contributes to the pedal feel as well. Theoretically speaking, the more clamp load the clutch has, the more pedal effort. This is not always the case but for B series clutch kits it plays out this way. The disc has a lot to do with the way the clutch engages. Full face discs (Exedy Stage 1) have a smooth engagement and is really E-Z to daily drive. The Puck style design (Exedy Stage 2) is made more for racing and can take a bit to get used to, as the engagement is a little rough and jerky. Either way both of these will contribute to a FASTER TAKE OFF/ LAUNCH You heard me right, not only will you transfer power to the wheels more efficiently during high and strenuous RPM's but you will improve your overall quarter mile time with a HIGHLY RESPONSIVE LAUNCH off the hole. And like (gilcontr) said, it doesn't hurt to have a stronger clutch than OEM on your side when it comes to future upgrades. I mean who ever wants to stop making their little honda project faster!!!

Now suppose your affected by the economy going to CRAP in the last 2 years but you still want to upgrade. I have found that the F1 Xtreme is a good Alternative to the Exedy Stage 1. Although they sell it as an XTREME, it is not comparable to the ACT XTREME pressure plate so don't get confused. It is more comparable with the ACT HEAVY DUTY or EXEDY STAGE 1. They hold roughly the same power and they feel almost identical, but the F1 Xtreme is hands down more affordable (Last time I checked...) I have personally driven a number of clutches including these 3 and they are, in my opinion the best choices for performance and drivability.

F1 Racing Xtreme FRX100 FULL FACE (PRICE $145.00)




I hope this helps explain a little bit about how clutches work and help out some of my fellow Honda-Techers out there!! BUMPITY BUMP BUMP

 

for a turbo b18b with a b16 tranny wat do you guys think would be a good flywheel for this clutch?
http://www.competitionclutch.com/sto...hp?vinvid=2276

and which one of these two would be better for it
http://gripforce.com/store/index.php...roducts_id=349

http://jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewPrd.a...idproduct=3865

And will a clutch or flywheel that says its for a "hydro" tranny fit a cable tranny? like on the second link for the flywheel that i put up, the only option for a b-series cable tranny is for a 88-91 and the 92-01 are for hydro trannys(mines a 99 cable tranny)

NOT TRYING TO THREAD JACK!!! Im new to the site and will start my build thread as soon as i meet the 5 post and 15 day prerequisite lol but i want to order the cluth and flywheel by saturday so i need answers fast! lol

 

I would do the Exedy HF01, but that's just me.

Flywheel is the same for cable and hydro transmissions within the B series at least. what will matter is the clutch kit due to differing sizes of the splines on the transmissions.

 

Just curious as to why that one? I might just do that instead since i know exedy is the oem for honda.

BTW if the link for the clutch doesnt work(first link) its a stage 3 (street/strip series segmented kevlar 2300 clutch kit) competition clutch part #8026-2300, just want to make sure it fits since it says nothing about cable/hydro trannys.

 

agree with this. the exedy stage 1 is money well spent on an NA B series thats sees hard driving or track time. the increase in pressure plate is some of it but the disc is also made of thicker steel and with stiffer springs. the 1 feels a little stiffer than the oem set but won't fail near as easy in track conditions.

the real question on my brain is with my own car. mostly stock JDM ITR engine. exedy oem/fidanza combo. if i did it over i would probably get the stage 1 just for insurance when i autocross. i've blown up one oem disc before at the track. the springs like to fly out of them under track conditions from time to time.

so, while the oem disc can hold the power, this may be food for thought on which is the best choice.

 

I have the same combo (OEM/fidanza) on a GS-R with a mild build and I would also go stg1/fidanza if I had to do it again (and I probably will, eventually).

 

For turbo applications the best disc material choice is COPPER CERAMIC. You will find that a 6 puck disc setup will last you a lot longer than either Kevlar or Organic material. Here's a few links to some copper ceramic clutch kits that I have had good experiences with!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-RA...Q5fAccessories

http://gripforce.com/store/index.php...roducts_id=357

Make Sure you get one with SPRINGS on the disc to maintain drivability!

As far as the flywheel, if you are looking for highest quality! By all means go with the EXEDY CHROMOLY. Just remember that flywheels are just pieces of metal that stop the clutch from slipping but have no mechanical function. This means that if you get the weight you want, you do not necessary have spend a grip of money to get a lightweight flywheel. I currently run a 10LBS flywheel from F1. Paid $118.00

http://stores.ebay.com/gripforce-clu...LH_TitleDesc=1

By the way I think your right about Exedy being the OEM manufacture for HONDA/ACURA, can anyone confirm this????

Bumpity bump bump!

 

That's what I've always heard as well.

 

P.S.

HERE IS THE B SERIES FITMENT BREAK DOWN.... 3 DIFFERENT CLUTCH KITS TOTAL!

1990-1991 INTEGRA (DA) ALL B SERIES MOTORS (Y1, J1, S1, A1) CABLE TRANNY.



1992-1993 INTEGRA (DA) ALL B SERIES MOTORS (YS1) CABLE TRANNY.
(BE VERY CAREFUL, THE 1990-1991 CLUTCH WILL NOT WORK ON 1992-1993)



1994-2001 INTEGRA (DC) ALL B SERIES MOTORS (S4, S80, ECT.... ) ALL HYDRAULIC TRANNYS




REMEMBER THAT THIS RULE APPLIES TO ALL SWAPS
CRX'S & 1988-1991 CIVICS LOOK OUT FOR THE TRANNY CODES!!

EG'S, EK'S, DEL SLOWS, AS LONG AS YOUR RUNNING HYDRO YOUR SAFE
(What kind of Idiot does a cable conversion ANYWAYS....... :p )


Bumpity bump bump!

 

it's a company called fuji carbon

 

I currently have the exedy stage 2 on my car but the springs on the pressure plate started giving out, so i figured it was time for a new one. Its a great clutch, but because of the 3 puck design i think it makes it a bit too jumpy i guess is the word on the b16 tranny. keep in mind im shooting for 275hp to the wheels on the stock block, and at about 375-400 after i rebuild in the fall. I need a clutch that is going to withstand that amount of power, i do plan on taking the car to the 1/4 mile at least once a month, and for the most part will be driven fairly easy on the street, but not always.

Thats why i want a stage 3 or 4 for that "just in case" factor, i really dont think a stage 2 will last me very long.

BTW thanks guys for the help!!!