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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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ALRIGHT SO I GOT A B20Z(HIGH COMP) FOR RIGHT NOW.NEXT MONTH I WILL BE PUTTING ON A GSR HEAD.I ALSO WANT TO PUT ON CAMS,CAM GEARS,AND A INTAKE MANIFOLD..ALL BY SKUNK2 ALL PRO SERIES...I WANT STAGE 3 PRO SERIES CAMS BUT SOMEONE TOLD ME STAGE 3 IS ONLY GOOD FOR TURBO..I'M GOING ALL MOTOR...IS THAT TRUE???????



PLUS WHAT ECU WOULD BE BEST FOR MY FRANKENSTIN????P72...???
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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wow. whoever gave you that info do not listen to them. stage3's are not for turbo.. do a lil more reading around then start to build.
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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WHY ARE YOU YELLING?
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Well IIRC, pro2's are on a very thin line of being too much for a turbo setup, so the pro3's would definitely not be good for one..lol. Anyway, you'd be better off searching for your answer in the all motor forum. You shouldn't just decide you want the stage 3's unless you actually have enough compression and headwork to take advantage of them.

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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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ahh the guys are going to give u hell for posting a n/a question in the f/i forum..but i feel like being nice. 1st off, whoever told u that pro 3's are only good for turbo is WRONG. as a matter of fact, they are too aggressive for f/i setups! they can be too much of a cam for all motor aswell if u dont have enough compression!! what exactly is your c/r (compression ratio?)
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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If you plan on buying most of your stuff from Skunk2, CALL THEM. They certainly know a little about all motor set-ups and can send you down the right (and expensive) path. It isn't all about just buying the best stuff, combination has alot to do with it. Again, call skunk
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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What pistons are you running ? Maybe a little more info like , what else does the motor build consist of ?
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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i will be running stock pistons.(for now)..this will be my daily driver so i dont want to go to crazy with it just cams, cam gears, intake manifold,and i"m upgraded my whole fuel system..i have a b20z high comp 10.2:1 and a b16 tranny now..the gsr head will be put on in a month...
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Project_EK
ahh the guys are going to give u hell for posting a n/a question in the f/i forum..but i feel like being nice. 1st off, whoever told u that pro 3's are only good for turbo is WRONG. as a matter of fact, they are too aggressive for f/i setups! they can be too much of a cam for all motor aswell if u dont have enough compression!! what exactly is your c/r (compression ratio?)

my compression ratio is 10.2:1
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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10.2:1 wouldn't be considered high compression, I would try a stage 1 or 2 with your setup.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 05:08 AM
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maybe you you have enough piston to valve clearance with those stock pistons and the vtec with cams. i'm not familiar with the stock b20 reliefs. i dont know how close you are to some of the shops in CA but they should be able to help you. it sounds like you have a lot to figure out.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by lohatch
maybe you you have enough piston to valve clearance with those stock pistons and the vtec with cams. i'm not familiar with the stock b20 reliefs. i dont know how close you are to some of the shops in CA but they should be able to help you. it sounds like you have a lot to figure out.

Yup . . .

Ok so the motor isnt big enough, you dont have enough compression and the valve reliefs wont be deep enough to run pro3s . .

Skunk will even most likely tell you not to run pro2s on stock valve reliefs. .
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 804tuned
ALRIGHT SO I GOT A B20Z(HIGH COMP) FOR RIGHT NOW.NEXT MONTH I WILL BE PUTTING ON A GSR HEAD.I ALSO WANT TO PUT ON CAMS,CAM GEARS,AND A INTAKE MANIFOLD..ALL BY SKUNK2 ALL PRO SERIES...I WANT STAGE 3 PRO SERIES CAMS BUT SOMEONE TOLD ME STAGE 3 IS ONLY GOOD FOR TURBO..I'M GOING ALL MOTOR...IS THAT TRUE???????



PLUS WHAT ECU WOULD BE BEST FOR MY FRANKENSTIN????P72...???


Do not use the Pro Series stage 3 for your setup...

Use the Tuner Stage 3, they work amazing with the setup you have..

Make sure you do springs and retainers with this setup... and if you decide to go turbo later on they will work beautifull as well....

Skunk2 Rocks...

CFT:-)
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 06:27 AM
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http://www.laskeyracing.com/

Check out that web site and get to know Mike Laskey. He's close to you and is someone your going to want to know and buy parts from. He's ninesecrx on this site.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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with stock pistons...why not run CTR or ITR cams...10:2 is nothing. CTR/ITRs will work wonders. stage anything will be overkill. My boy runs ctr cams and pistons in a stock b16 and ran 11.99 in a gutted out CRX with some fiberglass parts.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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judging by your question you do not want to think about pro3's..

tuner series stage 3's are large too and will require larger reliefs.. the vtec lobe in these are not much smaller than the pro3's they just have close to stock primaries..

they both need to be degreed in by a builder..

in this area you cant just jump in and start with the biggest made you need to aquire some exp first..

you need to start with something small like stage 1 tuner series..

actually a set of crower 402's would work well..
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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with a B20z the valve reliefs are not big enought and you will have piston to valve clearance problems with even stock cams
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by pr0honda
judging by your question you do not want to think about pro3's..

tuner series stage 3's are large too and will require larger reliefs.. the vtec lobe in these are not much smaller than the pro3's they just have close to stock primaries..

they both need to be degreed in by a builder..

in this area you cant just jump in and start with the biggest made you need to aquire some exp first..

you need to start with something small like stage 1 tuner series..

actually a set of crower 402's would work well..
We saw 13 more whp in a Stock ITR, with the Skunk2 tuner Stage 3 no other changes other than cams (both fully tuned to the max, same car)... If it had more mods it will probably be more...

a stage 1 tuner series is pretty much like CTR and the Crower cams are known to snap in two....
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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thanx for all your answers..i really soaked it all in.so skunk2 pros are out of the question for now..maybe later..thanx again for all the info....804..
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cockerkid008
WHY ARE YOU YELLING?
HE HAS BILLY MAZE SYNDROME!!!

OP: Please do yourself a favor before you buy a "built" motor for $400 and tell everyone it makes 250 whp NA and its a straight LS --- true story --- laughed so hard

Kids...
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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so when caps lock is on people say your yelling??WTF!!! that has to be the nerdiest **** i ever heard in my life.lmao oh well what ever floats your boat buddy...
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