FIRST OFF: I know about looping a p/s style rack. I've done it on another integra.

From what I read once on this site, the eg style manual rack should (such as from a 95 civic cx hatch) bolt right into a dc integra. Well, do I need to order other parts because i'm sort of starting to doubt these facts. How could it bolt right in? Wouldn't I need to use my gsr's steering tie rods? I would think that the civic would use a different length tie rod. Also, don't the civic's have some form of a grease insert so that the rack internals can be lubricated?

Can someone that knows for sure help me on this.

P.S.- I thought there were a few jdm style integra's that came without power steering. Is this correct?

 

1) You actually don't want the manual Civic rack, as it has a much worse steering ratio. You might need an EG subframe if it mounts differently than the DC rack.

2) There were also JDM Integras that came with a single cam D series engine, which would probably where a manual "Integra" rack could be sourced. I'd bet its just a Civic rack though.

 

yeah, i wouldn't change to a civic rack. just convert the integra rack to manual (search for the diy).

 

First off, the steering ratio isn't a problem for me.

Next, the problem with converting the p/s style rack is that eventually it will wear the internal gears and will result in steering slop. The manual racks supposedly are a little beefier.

Not sure about Honda's, but other makes of cars have posed this problem of steering slop without the p/s pump running. I'll believe otherwise unless someone can verify that a looped rack will not gain slack after years of being that way.

 

why would the internals get worn out? you just gotta keep it lubed.

 

Stress, not heat. On many cars, not Honda's in this case, when they lose the p/s belt, and just leave it off for a long time as a means of waiting around before getting the belt replaced, the rack gains slop since the internal gears gain slack wear. Like I said though, if someone can prove that their looped rack didn't gain slack after years of it being looped, then i'll believe it. Sort of! lol

 

i still don't get it. where does the extra stress come from?

 

I could see extra stress on the pinion gear input and steering column.

 

Yes, but this pinion gear used to have minimal force put on it. The pinion gear turns the internal gear as well, obviously. If it's harder to do this, then yes, wear can result.

It's like putting a small 7.5" GM rearend in a dumptruck. The rearend will either break or wear the face of the gear due to extra stress from extra resistance.

Hey, i'm no engineer, but when it's harder to turn something that also turns something else, then the stress between the something else and the something can only be greater.

Like I said though. If someone can prove that a looped rack will not gain slop after years of use, then I might reconsider my previous beliefs.