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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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Ok so I have a Clifford alarm avantguard 5.1. my brother did something will the battery and now its all messed up. When I unlock it the alarm goes off but the doors do not open even when the alarm is on the doors wont open. I have shaved door handles so the only way to get in is though the hatch. Is there anyway I can get them back? Dont know to much about this alarm. Please help me.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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Try rebooting system, disarm alarm using plain view switch, unplug alarm brain, wait a few min. and plug brain back in, reprogram system and remote(s)...
http://www.directeddealers.com/manua..._11-06post.pdf 94
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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i dont have the reprogram guide can you send it to me? thanks
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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or is that is on page 37 and on
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or is that is on page 37 and on
Yes. 94
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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theres no page 94? thanks had a buddy look at it. didnt say much :/
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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is that the one with black jack?? but just reset the alarm.. and see if you are getting a trigger from the alarm to trigger your door pop for the shaved handles if thats what you have
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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i have the shaved door handles inside and out pulled of a four door integra onto my two door. anyways i can still unlatch the hatch and lock it. it just dosnt unlock i hear the poop it makes when i hit the lock button but dosnt unlock i have to crawl thur the hatch into the front
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 03:48 AM
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did this car come with powerdoor locks? if not you need to check your relays for output.
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 05:31 AM
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theres no page 94? thanks had a buddy look at it. didnt say much :/
I mean yes, programing starts on page 34, try the reboot and see what happens. 94
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 06:09 AM
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yeah it did. i took them off tho. my friend said he might know now. so imma reset after he comes and llooks at it :/
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ok new update.
had a friend look at said it was fried. even unplugged it and restarted like you guys said. everything worked but wasnt able to get it to unlock still.

now i was looking up the warranty on it but im not the one that originally bought it came with the car i bought he included the box and owner manuel but no receipt.
is there anyway i can still send it in? or do i just have to buy a complete new one?
Help please.
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also is there a way to revert back to the factory valet code if you forgot the code you put in?
and i accidental took the cover off the valet buttons off is there a way to tell which one is which by the wires?
like the black and white wire are the star button? or vise versa? i know im asking alot but im just a 17 year old kid on a budget :]
but thanks for the help so far

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ok so i read up on the wiring. gray = star and black = clear
correct me if im wrong please

INFO ON PAGE 33
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oh and BTW i don't know if i mentioned before but it was just when i used my remote it wouldn't open but if i got in the car thur the hatch and hit my open door switch it would open but now it doesn't do that either. might be the wiring?
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I would check wiring, it is a good bet that the "EXT" outputs of alarm are being used to activate the door solenoids, [H1/6 blue/white, H1/16red/white and/or H2/8] one for drivers door the other for pass. door.
The low current ground "EXT" outputs will control relays and the relays will supply high current power, [or ground] to the door solenoids.

How exactly did you open the doors before your brother "messed it up"? 94
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 05:51 AM
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i opened them with the key less entry on the remote. is there maybe a way i burned one of the fuses? or something like that.
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and also i thought it was on VIOLET (+) Door Trigger Input - Zone 4 on the main H1 wire harness
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What do you mean "keyless entry on remote", the lock/arm-unlock/disarm button(s)???
The Violet(+) Door Trigger Input - Zone 4 is not used on Honda/Acura, also it is an input, [for door triggers] not an "EXT" output. 94
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 06:06 AM
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oh ok and yeah when i armed the alarm it would lock and when it disarmed it would unlock. when i hit the button now it still locks but doesn't unlock and i can still open the rear hatch with it too. i can pretty much still do everything with it but unlock the doors. well im off to school ill be on around 12 trying to fix this. ttly and thanks for the advise so far
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Wait, what??
I thought you had shaved door handles, "I have shaved door handles" as in no door handles???? 94
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shaved as in no way to put the key in from the outside like the door has no keyhole to open with the key
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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OIC. Door handle but no door key, I should have picked that up when you said, "pulled of a four door integra onto my two door." a few posts down, from your first one, I was working on the assumption the doors were shaves, "I have shaved door handles so the only way to get in is though the hatch."

So the question is are the actuators, [door lock motors] stock or aftermarket?

It makes no diff. other then how they are wired, your alarm has door lock relays built in, [wiring starting on page 20, H2 harness on page 8].

You said they lock but do not unlock, "when i hit the button now it still locks but doesn't unlock" that means the actuators are good and wiring into doors is good if aftermarket or OEM wiring is good if it is a stock door lock system.

The alarm brains door lock outputs can be tested, locate brain, find and inspect wiring from H2 harness, [door lock wiring, there are 6 of them, 7 if you count 2nd door unlock] how many of the 6 door lock leads are being used, what colors are they? 94
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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its the seconded one on the bottom color is light blue with black and im sure its this one. question is how do i tell if its the wiring?
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or and what kind of lock sytem does a acura integra type r have? its a stock one.

�� Type A: Three-wire (+) pulse controlling factory lock relays.
�� Type B: Three-wire (-) pulse controlling factory lock relays.
�� Type C: Direct-wired reversing-polarity switches. The switches are wired directly
to the motors. This type of door lock system has no factory relays.
�� Type D: Aftermarket actuator-driven systems. These include slave systems without
an actuator in the driver’s door but with factory actuators in all the other doors,
since these can be controlled with the installation of an aftermarket actuator.
�� Type E: Electronically-activated vacuum systems. This requires special programming
of the system.
�� Type F: One wire system.
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�� Type G: Positive (+) multiplex resistor-based circuit.
�� Type H: Negative (-) multiplex resistor-based circuit.

which one of these?
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