question about the ecu. If i were to replace the engine, trani, and ecu with the B18C5 Type R engine. would the existing loom still work? are all of the connections the same? I don't remember if the type r ecu is obd2 or not?
any help would be great!

thanks
Steve


[Modified by teger, 12:44 PM 8/29/2002]

 

here goes the flames...may god have mercy on your soul...

 

help a helpless soul out..... The ITR is OBD2. if your GSR is 96 up it should directly fit with no trouble codes. Well mine did..... I guess cause mine was GS-Retarded.

 

you would save much more cash just rebuilding the block you have and you would see much more gains...

 

You can do as much as you like but it will never truly be a type r. Build up the motor or go turbo.

 

True wont be a Type-R but still..its the biggest form of flattery.....good luck with the conversion man

 

type r this type r that...the flattery is nice until it gets out of hands and everyone including their grandma wants a type r motor just for ***** and giggles so cars begin to go missing

its not even that great of a motor. i would just build up the motor you have.

 

seriously man, you could run circles around an R with the money you'll spend on an R engine.

go with a Turbo setup that's dyno tuned and you'll probably be spending the same amount for more power. Heck, even going NA (pistons, more displacement, cams, tuning) right there you'd be set.

 

Maybe his intention wasnt ever aimed to be "truly a Type-R." I cant tell from your tone but YOU my friend are what makes ITR owners jerks. Straight out.

Get over yourself and your own car.


[Modified by Migs, 6:44 AM 8/30/2002]

 

Seriously, I hear posts like this sometimes and I think, "Damn some of these owners can be jerks." The only thing I would really want from an R is the suspension. Thinking about getting that pretty soon anyways. Also the front lip. Other than that, everything else doesn't tickle my fancy too too much.

I respect what you want to do to YOUR own car but, THAT'S A FRICKIN $5K MOTOR! You can have a fully built or close to a fully fully built N/A Geezer with them kinda feds. Also, from experience I tried to hook up a 2000 ITR computer into my car and it kept shutting off after I started it. Eventually, it wouldn't even start after like the 3rd try. I guess it has to do with that anti-theft thingy.

Maybe people want the ITR motor soooo bad because then they can say, "Yes it's a real B18C-R orrrr B18C5 to their friends. Also because "Oh my gosh it's the infamous Integra Type-R engine!" Mmm...Mmmmkay?

Basically the main difference in times between an ITR and a GS-R isn't the car itself, it's the driver (Drag Race of course, cause everyone knows the R's suspension is killer!) So if you're Steph Papadaklis Jr. and you can drive, then you can take on the average 'Mr. Bought My Type-R Because Everyone Knows They're Fast And I Can Intimidate People.'

It's not how ya stand by your car, it's how you race your car. You better learn that...

 

why? so you can say you have an extra lug? whoop-tee-do... you can get stiffer and better struts by going aftermarket.....

 

Like some others have said, build what you have. Spend around the same amount, and have around 25-30 more whp when you're done. If you go boost, the margin will be even greater!

Jason-
who loves his car, but realizes it's just an Integra


[Modified by Jason Franza, 5:48 AM 8/30/2002]

 

its called better brakes dummy

 

The price of a ITR motor isn't that bad as some of you make it seem.
Yeah it's 5k.......and yeah 5k can give you alot of mods. But don't forget the cost of selling the old gsr motor. You can get around 3k for it. SO 2k is the overhead.
So you get the ITR motor, LSD tranny, ITR mounts, jdm 4-1 header (if a jdm swap) *if your deal includes* And a practically stock motor that will be reliable and smog legal. You don't have to worry much about tuning and tweaking to get more power. It's alot less headache.

I've spent the money on my gsr engine and ended up with like 160whp. I did the *so frowned upon here* swap and put 174whp with only exhaust. And 185 with intake and an ecu drop in *mugen for all the disbelievers*.

Yeah i could have gone turbo, jrsc, or whatever. But maybe i'm not after insane power gains, but a simply fast, reliable street driven that isn't a monster, but well above what i had.

Oh yeah, the 5 lug conv was worth it too. The brakes just kick ****.


All in all, I say go with what YOU want. Set a goal and see your options to get there and pick the one that makes YOU happy. Not sure about everyone else here, but i'll be happy for you

 

Akira-R. Thanks for your positive input. He understands exactly what i'm trying to achieve. One thing about the type r motor, is it's reliability as a stock motor. I am not trying to be a Type R. If I could afford one, I would buy one.

 

I cant tell from your tone but YOU my friend are what makes ITR owners jerks. Straight out.


Not all R ownders are jerks man...i just happen to drive a Type-R and i love it but i dont hate on other cars, im actually a huge fan of all cars as we all should be
And teger...like i said before man good luck with w/e YOUR project is going to be..to each his own ...

 

And its called big brake conversion Idiot. such as fast brakes, AEM, WIldwood and so-on...

 

How is a ITR motor more reliable then any other B-series motor? "If it aint broke then dont fix it"... For the price of an R motor, I would just build around the GSR and get a JDM or ATS FD for your GSR tranny. And also get a ITR or aftermarket LSD and you'll be set.
For the right amount of money, any car can be built to out perform other cars out there.

I have Mucho respect for the R's, but trying to be one is a different story. Just build and enjoy what you got and go from there...

 

am i the idiot? can u reread what the guy said, he said the only reason for the itr suspension is for an extra lug, i said also for better brakes. I never said it had the best brakes in the whole wide world, i just said it also had better braking, dummy(like in a joking way). So if i said i was going to buy an offer b16a2 motor, someone says why get a b16a2? because it has a better valve cover? and someone else responds with well it also has more power, dummy.......a reply that will be similar to yours is why get the b16a2, get a h22a......nm, hehehe


[Modified by VoLTRoNx916, 1:50 PM 8/30/2002]

 

ITR motor + Trany = $6,000

Free GS-R motor + Turbo + Header + Cat + Intake + lightweight flywheel + lower gearing + Cams + modified edu + dyno tuning = less than $6000 and would beat the snot out of most corvettes.




[Modified by jond, 4:55 PM 8/30/2002]

 

i was bustin the guys *****' cause most ppl only want the ITR suspension for bling factor..ie: i have 5 lugs, and you don't....

 

Type R = buy it, enjoy it, appreciate what honda created...don't fuc with it.
all other integras= build it up and smoke some R's for breakfast.....just my opinion
Build your geezer motor....it's more cost effective.

 

ur swap would go smoth ur wires would fit perfect

 

i truly have a civic h/b type r that would dust any thing u got

 

we know, you're missing the point. everybody's got their own prerogative when modding his/her car, so let's leave it that way and focus on what the original poster came here for: an answer to his/her question. just a thought..