So i went to get my 97 jdm itr motor into my 96 ek bar'd and i have everything to USDM spec. I get to the station and the guy tells me that CA no longer allows jdm engine swaps, they only allow jdm engines as an "engine replacement." So im pretty screwed at this point, has anyone else heard of this?

 

dang....that sux dude..get out of state plates and drivers liscense...
do that

 

damn, thank god i live in florida

 

so cant you just say that that is your "replacement"? and ya CA is effing gay, the first thing cops say to all us honda guys is" DO YOU HAVE A JDM MOTOR?" and no matter what you say they pop your hood and harrass you as if you have been rapping babys. GOD DAM CA IS GETTING OUTTA HAND

 

hmmm that sounds like a pretty good idea, until chp pulls you over

 

Thats so funny, the cops here are like "oh cool whats a JDM motor"

 

no. to him you are from out of state. relatives that live in iowa etc.. you live there but are visiting in CA....many people do that

 

lol cops here don't even pull me over. Swapped, lowered, illegally tinted, and with an aftermarket exhaust. I swear, half of smalltown Illinois still thinks a Honda is something rare and foreign, like a Renault or a Peugeot or something.

My mom held off for years on buying an Odyssey because she didn't think any garages around here would have metric tools.

 

Replacement Engines
Entire engines can be replacement parts. As with any other replacement part, the engine must be identical to the original. If the replacement block or engine is obtained without emissions equipment, all the equipment from the original engine must be installed on the replacement block.

If the engine is not identical to the original then it is not a replacement part, instead it is considered an engine change.

Engine changes are a modification that must meet certain requirements to be legal (please see "Engine Changes").

Japanese Replacement Engines
Used engines imported from Japan can be used as replacement engines as long as the engine being used has been identified as functionally identical to the original engine. Please refer to the engine importers catalogue to determine if a replacement engine is legal for installation in your vehicle.

Engine Changes
Engine changes are legal as long as the following requirements are met to ensure that the change does not increase pollution from the vehicle:

* The engine must be the same year or newer than the vehicle.

* The engine must be from the same type of vehicle (passenger car, light-duty truck, heavy-duty truck, etc.) based on gross vehicle weight.

* If the vehicle is a California certified vehicle then the engine must also be a California certified engine.

* All emissions control equipment must remain on the installed engine.

After an engine change, vehicles must first be inspected by a state referee station. The vehicle will be inspected to ensure that all the equipment required is in place, and vehicle will be emissions tested subject to the specifications of the installed engine.

Source: http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/replace.htm

What this means is, if you have an Acura Integra anything, you can get a JDM B18C installed as long as you use all USDM emissions equipment. That is considered a "Japanese replacement" because Acuras in US came with B18Cx in their GSR/ITR models. Since Civics never had B18s in them in the US, you cannot use a JDM engine as a replacement, they will not BAR it. I think you can use a USDM B18xx in a Civic legally. The only JDM B-series motor that is legal for a Civic is a B16A because the 99-00 Civic Sis had B16A2s.

 

blow up your car and collect insure buy a camaro

 

Thats the truth... Only thing my friends have been pulled over for on that list is tinted windows and thats just if you happen to run across a pissed off cop.

Its illegal to have a modified exhaust here and you NEVER hear or see anyone pulled over for that.

Some of the garages around here see my Honda (or especially my friends MKIV Jetta GLI) and go "Uh, we don't know how to work on foreign cars like that." Its pathetic. My Accord is easier to work on than some of their american cars.

 

whats new i still ahve one in my car just dont drive like an ***

 

I'm moving.

 

Lol your just now hearing of this? It's been like that for 2-3 months.

 

Thats what I'm saying bro.

 

I love FLORIDA lol , its tru cops are like that, one time i was riding my cbr f3 with no plastics because of a crash and a cop was going opposite direction and chased me down for speeding when he got me he asked me if it was a 600cc or 1000cc like normal cov and intreested , then gave me a ticket, ***.

that sucks bro theres ways around that tho im sure.

 

cant you just tell them the motor has been in the car for like 3 years?
i heard of them letting guys go that have the engines in for a while....
love cali but ill never live there, ever.

 

damn I'm glad I live in Georgia. No inspections at all where I live. Cops pretty much don't care what we do as long as its safe.

 

haha, i considered that but insurance will only pay me 2000 for the civic =(

 

Yea, the guy told me this a new law that just passed about 3 months ago or somthing like that

 

kcuf it huh lets dip hahaha i bet a thousand other hondas will follow us

 

thats bush league

 

here in indiana, one day i was driving to work, car was all warmed up oil pres. was up, and i hit v-tec 1st thru 3rd ahhh a good way to start the day, but uh oh whats this cop kinda coming up behind me............ chilled out jumped 3rd to 5th to make her quiet, pulled into the gas station he fallowed.......................... got out, he sir come here, okay i said.......... whys your car switch tones between gears..... vtec of course!..... then the question that scared me why do you back fire flames between gears.... answer its just my car being my car....... ......final end no tickets..... we had a big racing scene here. ligit and all.... few people started ****ing around with others cars and it died..... this is northeast indiana middle of no where..... but we dont have any problems. even the late night drifters dont seem to have any problems.....

 

I got an idea for you, it worked on my buddies car. Go to a machine shop or order them off the net, Get yourself a set of stamps. My buddy had a B16A and we turned it into a
B16A3. passed ref and is all bar'd now. Just make sure that the stamps u get are the same style as the real numbers on the block. I have noticed that a lot of the 3's are different, and also some of the 2s

 

wow! i never would have thought to tell someone that. props on the idea! i got a few people i talk to in CA i will let them know. they are always looking for ways to bar. all you would have to do is google engine blocks and look very close, im sure you can get a stamp set off ebay or something now.