I have a 97 civic ex. Im want to get a 22mm rear swaybar with the brace of course. Right now I have a 13mm rear swaybar and stock front swayabr (24mm??), as well as tein springs on stock struts. My tires are 14in Pirrelli all seasons so they dont have the best grip. Will this be a dangerous combination? I heard a big rear swaybar can cause some sort of oversteer. . . . any more info on this.

The reason i want a 22mm is to reduce body roll and have the car rotate better. I like how the tein springs ride so i dont really want to switch them out. My biggest concern is how the tires and front to rear swaybar ratio will affect my car.

 

which tein? so far i can't see any reason not to use a 22mm. i have driven a dc2 with tein h techs, stock shocks and the 24/22 bar combo. the car would only come around if i used the brakes to load the front end, then turn. it's still not a heavy oversteer combo.

 

So, you want it to rotate better (which means more oversteer, or at the very least, less understeer), but you're afraid it will be dangerous to have oversteer...

Honestly, I think you'll be fine, and agree with idrivesideways' statement.

However, do be a bit more careful after install getting used to it. It will no longer be as controllable if you slam on the brakes and turn, as you would during a panic maneuver performed by a less-knowledgeable driver.

 

Ive definitely gotten the back loose around tight corners. Especially with AS tires. Just drive carefully and get some summer tires when you can.

 

A few months back i had a 23mm rear sway on my 99 civic ex (22mm stock front sway) with 10k/8k spring rates with Buddy club N+ full coilovers. I felt I had a little too much oversteer. I prefer to have a neutral feel or a tad bit of understeer. My front end felt very flimsy and i didn't feel comfortable pushing it hard during corner's. I acutally took this setup up to the local canyons and pushed it pretty hard. Going up hill handling felt solid but the the front end def. needed to be stabilized by a bigger front sway bar. Going down hill was a totally different feeling, the car felt like it was going everywhere and i felt the front suspension couldn't keep up with the bigger rear sway in the rear. My old setup with the stock 22mm front sway bar and 13mm rear sway handled just as good with out the front end being so flimsy. The best setup for the 96-00 civic coupes IMO would be to keep the stock 22 front sway and add a 19mm rear sway with 10k/8k spring rates. This setup would do best on the streets and do exceptionally well on the track. Alot of info, i know haha. Hope it helps OP!

Side note, i wouldn't recommend running 14inch rims on any 96-00 civic coupe. While i had my old suspension setup i was running oem EM1 wheels with yoko es100's all around. These tires get very sticky once they warm up!

 

I DD my 00 Si and autox it. My car comes with 26mm front and I installed a 22mm CTR rear bar. This combo is perfect. 400f/450r spring rates. I drive on Yoko S.drives as my daily and b-stone RE-01r's for autox.

I've taken many of the local autoxers out on the course and they are amazed at how well the car is able to take turns and rotate.

For DD you'll be fine. Just take it easy on the sharp turns at first since it will have a new *snap* to it.

 

Since blaze has a 26mm sway up front it goes great with a 22-23mm rear sway combo.

Like i said above OP, if your still planning to run the stock 22 front sway i'd wouldn't go any bigger than 19mm. Trust me, you'll be wasting your money. I've gone through it and was very disappointed with the outcome. If you have the money to upgrade to a stock EM1 front sway bar and use the 22-23mm rear sway, thats evern better. Alot of HT members feel like the 26mm front sway is overkill, but i think its not a bad upgrade at all. My little bro has a EM1 and his front end def. feels more stable at high speeds and cornering. Though, you have take into consideration that he has a b16 and i have a D-series. I still think the front sway plays a big role in the front suspension being more solid.

 

I've gone down that a similar path in my 98ex. I had h&R sports w/koni yellows. stock 22mm front, w/13mm rear. I then upgraded to the comptech 22mm rear. However I was high performance all season and then high performance summer tires.

I still remember the first time I took a decreasing radius clover leaf exit ramp... Had taken it plenty of times before... Got a bit cocky and the rear end broke loose. Didn't spin or anything, but spooked me. Now, that wasn't the bar's fault, it was mine, my point is that there is a significant difference

I can't honestly say that I would recommend going with a 22mm rear while you have stock struts, soft springs and non-grippy tires. I think there are probably better ways to spend the money to improve your car.

Is it dangerous? Only if you have a loose nut behind the wheel...

 

sort of but blaze also has rear bias rates which the op will not. driving style is a big portion of this discussion even though bars and springs keep being used in the chat

 

true...

In the OP's case, he should upgrade to a better suspension setup. I'm not sure if a full coilover will suit him but he def. needs to upgrade to better shocks.

 

perhaps but this whole discussion was on the bar and his exact combo. if we change things you start having multiple answers to one original question

 

well put sir....

 

well that is what he is asking. anti roll bars are part of a suspension setup.

but i do agree with putting the money towards something like a coilover setup would be more justified.

 

I would get the em1/ type r front sway with the 22mm rear to balance it out

But like everyone else is saying get coilovers or tires first

 

I had an EK with Koni GC 450F/400R springs, no front sway bar and 22mm rear sway. I didn't think it had too much oversteer at all. Sure, if you're slam on the brakes and turn sharp the back end would come around.

Now on my DC I run 600f/700r, stock front 22mm, and a 22mm ITR rear sway bar. It will oversteer if I make it (on track), but its not as if I'm drifting around left turns on the way to the store. I've driven in the rain on track days and have only once came close to spinning (way too much trail braking in the wet ).

So if you drive it normal it's going to be fine. Remember, in a FWD when the back end starts to break loose get on the gas, and it will straighten out.

 

Actually the 22mm front with 22mm rear is a very balanced combo. I drove that setup for about 4yrs daily driven with multiple track events.