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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 09:07 AM
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i have a 94 honda civic dx coupe.
and its got a 1.5 in it and i was wondering if someone could tell me how to figure out what type cause i see you guys talking about all these d16z6's and all this mumbo jumbo i dont know. thanks
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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The engine is stamped where it meets the tranny, cant miss it!
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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Should be d15b7
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TheCivicMafia
Should be d15b7
it was thank both of you.

is that a good motor for a turbo.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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No offense meant, but turbocharging is not a project for beginners. You may want to learn a lot about your engine first, get used to terminology, do minor upgrades in the mean time. Turbocharging for beginners is basically begging for a soon to be blown engine.

Search the forums and find out more about your engine and maybe some other peoples experiences and trials before doing a large step like that.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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No offense meant, but turbocharging is not a project for beginners. You may want to learn a lot about your engine first, get used to terminology, do minor upgrades in the mean time. Turbocharging for beginners is basically begging for a soon to be blown engine.

Search the forums and find out more about your engine and maybe some other peoples experiences and trials before doing a large step like that.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Simkin314
No offense meant, but turbocharging is not a project for beginners. You may want to learn a lot about your engine first, get used to terminology, do minor upgrades in the mean time. Turbocharging for beginners is basically begging for a soon to be blown engine.

Search the forums and find out more about your engine and maybe some other peoples experiences and trials before doing a large step like that.
if hes gonna turbo in the future i wouldnt advice him spending money on N/A parts

i do HIGHLY advise you do some homework on your engine, by homework i mean ALOT of reading these forums (and other forums) about the type of engine you wanna build ; D/B/H/K series.

once you know how the motor works in detail and what upgrades do what. then i'd suggest you start learning Turbo 101 and how it plays part in the engine. thats how i learned it

you dont have to buy parts for your car to be hands on with it. take your engine apart, and learn how it works hands on, a good place to start is looking at the bolt on's to the engine (all parts that are on the outside of the engine block)

hands on is the way to go, but learn along the way
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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I only meant to do minor upgrades if you couldn't wait to do something, sorry, didn't mean to imply.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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lol i dont wanna make it seem like i went off, sorry if i did

i just believe that we'd all be pretty pissed if we bought parts for our car and later down the road was forced to remove them

although if he did do an intake and exhaust on his car, he could keep them both after turbo, (keep the exhaust and just using the intake as charge piping and the filter on the turbo)
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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well such a noob that doesnt read the guide lines and rules make ur topic line actually mean something not just help me im new. highly recommend op to read all rules stickys and guidelines
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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i have a lot of bolt on stuff on my engine i was looking for something to tinker with and something more challenging that will bring much more horsepower to the table. i was just asking if the motor was a candidate and your right i should have read them sorry i couldnt think of a good title.
but whatever.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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lol, nothing but a turbo will make a dirty D shine, but like i said earlier, you can salvage some of those parts for a turbo setup
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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Well,

I only had my d16z6 for a little while before i did an engine swap...sooo I can't really comment on it too much. I think I have read people dropping y8 heads on a d15 cylinder block to add vtec and horses (mini-me?). This is probably a better 'raise the difficulty level' project rather than jumping head-first into a turbo project. While at it, you could swap cams.

Just my loose change.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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Like stated above, if you want to go turbo do TONS of research into it first.

The basic decision is do you want to run ~200hp or less on stock internals or do you want to go over that.

Either way your engine is definately not the best suited for turbo charging.. it can obviously be done but it's probobly not worth it.

If you want 200 or less then get a cheap D16z6 swap (engine, computer,ecu at least (you don't NEED the trans but it would be preferable to your stock one) and get a used dseries turbo kit and GOOD fuel management

If you want over 200 then get a cheap d16z6 and build it. Then buy one of the nicer turbo kits from one of the specialty producers (peakboost revhard etc) and get REALLY good fuel management.
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by NonovUrbizniz
If you want over 200 then get a cheap d16z6 and build it.
Good luck finding one without an INSANE amount of miles... I was going to go that route... then I decided 'jdm d15b' from hmotorsonline.

Now i have a jdm h22a in my warehouse.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 02:36 AM
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Fukcin kids and their bs talkin out their asses. I feel like I'm getting dumber just reading this ****.

OP. Do whatever the FUKC you wanna do. If you think you are ready to boost, go for it. Just be prepared to double your budget. Boost isn't cheap. But your motor is...
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 03:12 AM
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 03:20 AM
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It doesn't matter. This guy will probably never get around to it. 99% of the new people that come onto this forum with the dreams of hight boost and 9347091401480WHP NEVER ACHIEVE their goals. D series is just fine for boost. If he is gonna BUILD the motor for boost the fact that its DOHC VTEC doesn't even matter much anymore. Stock for stock a B18b can handle about the same power as a b18c.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 04:01 AM
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Ok I cant explain it all to you right now not patient enough but ill point you in the RIGHT direction. Ima try and explain it as simple as possible so hopefully you can catch on a little.

#1.) DO NOT turbo your motor youll regret it later, Invest in Getting a better motor and then turbo it down the road. Your motors only good for saving gas, not making power.


So if you want to start learning do your homework im about to give you. Im gona give you some "terms" and you need to learn as much as you can about them, ill explain it a little too to help.

Motor Swap - Taking a motor from different model hondas and putting it into your car... EX. B16 (simply put comes from older model SI hondas, crx, ek), LS (Integras) ,b18c1 (GSR Integras), b18c5 (Integra Type-R US)

Tuning - no comment here

Basic Bolt-Ons - Parts that are the cheapest and easiest to install, usually the first parts people buy, but its not the same if you want too boost. EX. basic bolts ons are... Headers, Exhaust, Intake, Throttle Body, manifold stuff like that

Engine components - Whats inside, what it does, how combustion ends up turning the wheels on your car etc...

so learn what u can about all these and youll learn a lot of other stuff along the way. if you have question PM me.

i had to re write this like 5 times to get it as simple as i can so hope u appreciate OP.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by hypd23
#1.) DO NOT turbo your motor youll regret it later.
I love it when people talk out of their *** and don't even back it up with an explanation.

I think that whole statement is uneducated BS but even trying to keep it short, WHY would the OP regret it?

I've been on this forum forever, researching my own build for my DD, and have seen boosted D's last forever and some blow up because the owner didn't know what they were doing in the first place and half-assed it.

Please clarify what you are saying for your fellow noob.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 04:47 AM
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It doesn't matter. This guy will probably never get around to it. 99% of the new people that come onto this forum with the dreams of hight boost and 9347091401480WHP NEVER ACHIEVE their goals. D series is just fine for boost. If he is gonna BUILD the motor for boost the fact that its DOHC VTEC doesn't even matter much anymore. Stock for stock a B18b can handle about the same power as a b18c.

It always matters if VTEC, boost and vtec work miracles together. all the valves are staying open long and higher, so its just letting that fully spooled turbo get in that much more air for those last 4-5000 rpms.

Yes They are almost the same and i agree with u the only thing is that
The gsr is better for high hp is because the Gsr has oil squirters, LS doesnt but a lot of people do add them. Eventually with big turbos they flow so much oil for cooling then its not cycling it back fast enough, the motor gets starved and i dont need to tell you wat happens next.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 05:00 AM
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It always matters if VTEC, boost and vtec work miracles together. all the valves are staying open long and higher, so its just letting that fully spooled turbo get in that much more air for those last 4-5000 rpms.

Yes They are almost the same and i agree with u the only thing is that
The gsr is better for high hp is because the Gsr has oil squirters, LS doesnt but a lot of people do add them. Eventually with big turbos they flow so much oil for cooling then its not cycling it back fast enough, the motor gets starved and i dont need to tell you wat happens next.
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I love it when people talk out of their *** and don't even back it up with an explanation.

I think that whole statement is uneducated BS but even trying to keep it short, WHY would the OP regret it?

I've been on this forum forever, researching my own build for my DD, and have seen boosted D's last forever and some blow up because the owner didn't know what they were doing in the first place and half-assed it.

Please clarify what you are saying for your fellow noob.

oh man, Im sorry your right you been on here researching forever for your dd build. Idk why people that know nothing are always the cocky ones.
Im not gona get into flaming you at all. All I did was 1.) tell him in my opinion his best option. because a boostd d15 will not make the kind of power i assume he wants. I didnt tell him not too, i just gave him my advice. the only decent d series is a Y8, he has a d15. He doesnt know too much right now so
If he swapped a LSV stock w. decent tune, or got some ebay turbo kit and got that tuned 6psi. They are gona make about the same power and cost about the same give or take of course. SO this is how I see it, why have a Single cam boosted and be stuck? Or get a swap and have all the potiential in the world. Bolt ons, Nitrous Turbo etc... its all about the Potiential of an engine too me, you can call me a noob watever but you just miss-interprited my post. whatever you reply to this, just think about what your gona say, Dont flame me too much because this is not your thread, so dont try and get it closed.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mcvtec
lol
continue? i want to be blessed with your knowledge please. Im dying to hear wat u have to say

actually PM me. i really wana hear what u think.h
im not gona get off topic anymore so if you feel the need pm me (everyone who needs to attack me cus im new) rofl

goodluck OP - people dont like that i said bseries is better then d series, 15 eh. If you want to go faster then 15's on the strip then pm me. but a boosted d15 will clock that all day if thats your goal.

Dont listen to anyone on here, everyone just wants to flame hondatech has really changed. Go find a shop thats reputable with hondas in your area tell them what you want to do and they will help you. find a shop that can tune and youll get more help then u will on here. I tryed.

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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 06:41 AM
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You don't back up any of your original statements. You said, and I quote, "DO NOT turbo your motor youll regret it later" and then said you didn't say it but turned around and said "I didnt tell him not too, i just gave him my advice. the only decent d series is a Y8, he has a d15.". You said no such thing. You ASSUMED he wanted BIG horsepower when no such thing was said. Then you rag on me for doing research and turn around and tell the OP to do the same thing. The OP didn't say anything about swapping motors or anything like that. In fact the OP gave up very LITTLE information.

So OP. Read ALL the stickies. Do your research. Take your time doing it. And don't listen to anyone here including me or hypd23. You will see who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't after a very short while. When you do. Come back to this post and re-read it.
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