*******No more reason not to get ITR brakes on your civic/integra
I you don't know about the ITR brake upgrade that is available for your ef/eg/ek/da/dc search in the any of the FAQ forms. People have been doing it since about 2002.
The Problem:
If you don't have ITR, but want ITR calipers on your ef/eg/ek/da/dc your stuck having to:
1) buy from Autozone remanufactured calipers for $53 each
2) buy from Autozone 23T caliper brackets $41 each.
That would cost you $106 for calipers & $82 for brackets..... that's a lot of money!
The Solution:
To help save money I'm selling 23T brackets (includes pin/bolt) for only $25 for the pair!
Shipping would be $10-$13 max.
See the difference in size of the calipers/brackets compared to reg civic brakes.
.........Now, all you have to do is go get NEW ITR (17CL15VN) calipers at autozone!
http://www.hondamarketplace.com/show....php?t=2652880
I have many vouches.
I take MO or paypal (please include 3.5% fee)
*** Charlie Moua ***
The Problem:
If you don't have ITR, but want ITR calipers on your ef/eg/ek/da/dc your stuck having to:
1) buy from Autozone remanufactured calipers for $53 each
2) buy from Autozone 23T caliper brackets $41 each.
That would cost you $106 for calipers & $82 for brackets..... that's a lot of money!
The Solution:
To help save money I'm selling 23T brackets (includes pin/bolt) for only $25 for the pair!
Shipping would be $10-$13 max.
See the difference in size of the calipers/brackets compared to reg civic brakes.
.........Now, all you have to do is go get NEW ITR (17CL15VN) calipers at autozone!
http://www.hondamarketplace.com/show....php?t=2652880
I have many vouches.
I take MO or paypal (please include 3.5% fee)
*** Charlie Moua ***
Holy hell this is confusing.
okay, i have a 99 ex civic. do i have 10.4 inch rotors? what all do i need to do in order to install ITR front brakes? can i use 11.1 rotors from brembo with no mods?
okay, i have a 99 ex civic. do i have 10.4 inch rotors? what all do i need to do in order to install ITR front brakes? can i use 11.1 rotors from brembo with no mods?
99 civic ex came STOCK with 10.4 rotors and the same caliper as LS/GSR.
I've never seen any 11.1" Brembo rotors for civics. But if they do make them and fix 4x100 wheel stud pattern then go for it. Those rotors would cost you more money and may not even provide much of a differnece in braking.
My option is that because rotors are wear/replacement items get ones that are the cheapest that come with warrantee. For example, Autozone as 2 yr warrantee on their rotors... even if your track the hell out of them and they crack, you get free replacement.
back to tech info:
i'll try to say the same thing with different words.
Pick either one:
1) use your current 10.4 rotors. Install the 23T bracket and ITR caliper.
2) buy redrilled 11.1" prelude rotors from (fastbrakes.com). Install the 23T bracket and ITR caliper.
REGUARDLESS OF WHICH ROTOR OPTION YOU GO WITH (above)
you need to make sure that there is enough clearance "in between the caliper with pads installed" to fit your rotor. There are TWO ways to fix the clearance.
PICK either one:
1) go to hardware store & buy 3mm washer. (you may have to stack a few together)
These will be placed over the wheel stud and sit flat OVER the hub. You will then place the rotor (either 10.4" or redrilled 11.1" predlude) over through the wheel studs and it will sit on the washers.
2) take the brackets and mill off 3.2mm (.127inch, 1/8th inch) off the INSIDE of the braket.
There have been may threads done on this OEM BIG BRAKE upgrade. They can be found in the FAQ... If you are serouse about buying this, buy it and i'll provide tech support but don't just ask for the sake of asking.
Not mad, but just trying to make clear that this is a FS thread.
Originally Posted by fullsleeves
will the 23t bracket work with 11.1" rotors and spoon calipers on a dx knuckle?
Here is what I know to be fact.
ITR rotors are 11.1" in diameter
ITR rotors are 23mm thick
All ITR come with the 17CL15VN
Spoon 4 piston calipers:
- use the same size brake pad as stock calipers (but you have to remove metal squeel clips that comes on the most brake pads)
- bolt onto the ITR using the 23T bracket with stock rotor
- do not work with 96-97 4lug itr because that rotor is only 10.5"... it would have to use a 96+ prelude rotor.
- will clear stock ITR rims (15x6 offset 50mm)
- only weight 6lbs each compared to 28lbs for stock itr calipers.
however... one thing you said worries me, my issue is that if you have a ef/eg/ek = dx knuckle you cannot use a 11.1" rotor & simply bolt on the 23T bracket with ITR caliper....impossible, your DX knuckle needs a added adapter plate to "extend" out the distance from the hub" of where the 23T bracket needs to be...like the ones made by fastbrakes.comthey sell for $120
The only time you can instantly bolt on 11.1" re-drilled prelude rotors are if you USE a EF=ex, EG/EK=ex/si or a 90-00 integra knuckle. All of those already comes with a 10.3" rotor. the difference between 10.3 and 11.1" is not do much so that the knuckle will accept 11.1" rotors & directly bolt the 23t bracket with itr calipers with no issues.
If you have a DX knuckle and want to use SPOON ITR calipers, you'll have to use a 10.4" rotor(from any civic ex/integra, ek si), 23T bracket(shave 3.2mm of inside of bracket or add 3mm spacer in between hub and rotor) with Spoon ITR calipers.
did that make sense? I've done enough asking around so I know inside out.
let me know if you want it....
so many people have asked me for tech help about the calipers and how to install it but knowbody has bought them.... so i'm getting tired of typing. Search for yourself, since 2002 people have been doing ITR caliper mods on ef/eg/ek/da/dc with out any issues.
Charlie Moua
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Thinking of purchasing the brackets but I have one question regarding the washer method. Will that effect driveability or cause wheel vibration?
the short answer is no it will not cause any unwanted viberation at all.
if it did I would have told you only 1 of the methods of using the brackets.
ask the road race guy.... if its good enough for them, its good enough for me. he's a
OG member ... i don't want to give his sign on name or else everyone will flood him with PM and questions.
AND if you DON'T have a EX Ef this will only work if you replace your DX,HF, Etc knuckles for 90-91 EX ones. If you do not you will have to use 93 LS disks (10.3")
http://www.hondacivicwagon.com/bb/vi...php?f=8&t=6241 <<<<<<<<------Check it!
http://www.hondacivicwagon.com/bb/vi...php?f=8&t=6241 <<<<<<<<------Check it!
AND if you DON'T have a EX Ef this will only work if you replace your DX,HF, Etc knuckles for 90-91 EX ones. If you do not you will have to use 93 LS disks (10.3")
http://www.hondacivicwagon.com/bb/vi...php?f=8&t=6241 <<<<<<<<------Check it!
http://www.hondacivicwagon.com/bb/vi...php?f=8&t=6241 <<<<<<<<------Check it!
the short answer is no it will not cause any unwanted viberation at all.
if it did I would have told you only 1 of the methods of using the brackets.
ask the road race guy.... if its good enough for them, its good enough for me. he's a
OG member ... i don't want to give his sign on name or else everyone will flood him with PM and questions.
if it did I would have told you only 1 of the methods of using the brackets.
ask the road race guy.... if its good enough for them, its good enough for me. he's a
OG member ... i don't want to give his sign on name or else everyone will flood him with PM and questions.
also i see that spoon has a 3mm inner space set, will this work.
did that make sense? I've done enough asking around so I know inside out.
let me know if you want it....
so many people have asked me for tech help about the calipers and how to install it but knowbody has bought them.... so i'm getting tired of typing. Search for yourself, since 2002 people have been doing ITR caliper mods on ef/eg/ek/da/dc with out any issues.
Charlie Moua
let me know if you want it....
so many people have asked me for tech help about the calipers and how to install it but knowbody has bought them.... so i'm getting tired of typing. Search for yourself, since 2002 people have been doing ITR caliper mods on ef/eg/ek/da/dc with out any issues.
Charlie Moua
Sold 2 pairs of ITR calipers with 23T brackets so far to RyanA & petwhookie
Thanks for the business guys, I greatly apperciate it.
I have ONLY 1 complete pair left ... but still have 3 set of extra 23T brackets
Charlie Moua
Thanks for the business guys, I greatly apperciate it.
I have ONLY 1 complete pair left ... but still have 3 set of extra 23T brackets
Charlie Moua
REGUARDLESS OF WHICH ROTOR OPTION YOU GO WITH (above)
you need to make sure that there is enough clearance "in between the caliper with pads installed" to fit your rotor. There are TWO ways to fix the clearance.
PICK either one:
1) go to hardware store & buy 3mm washer. (you may have to stack a few together)
These will be placed over the wheel stud and sit flat OVER the hub. You will then place the rotor (either 10.4" or redrilled 11.1" predlude) over through the wheel studs and it will sit on the washers.
2) take the brackets and mill off 3.2mm (.127inch, 1/8th inch) off the INSIDE of the braket.
There are 2 ways to install the ITR calipers onto the 10.4 rotor.
A) Place washer in between hub & back side of rotor. Find 2mm flat washer that had 12.5mm(1/2") open diameter to slide over each wheel stud.
or
B) Take the 23T caliper bracket and mill off 2.5mm off the INSIDE of the bracket.
Install on Civic EX, EM1, All Integra (non ITR):
You can keep stock 10.4" rotors OR upgrade to 11.1" redrilled prelude vtec rotors.
Install choices is the same as A/B (above)
A) Place washer in between hub & back side of rotor. Find 2mm flat washer that had 12.5mm(1/2") open diameter to slide over each wheel stud.
or
B) Take the 23T caliper bracket and mill off 2.5mm off the INSIDE of the bracket.
Install on Civic EX, EM1, All Integra (non ITR):
You can keep stock 10.4" rotors OR upgrade to 11.1" redrilled prelude vtec rotors.
Install choices is the same as A/B (above)
You gave us 4 different values here. Which one is it, and how do you know this? i don't understand why the milling value is dirrrent from the space value that the washers will create, isn't is uppose to be the same, in one case your just taking material off and other case adding material.
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