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Should I change my spark plug wires? Don't hate.

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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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Default Should I change my spark plug wires? Don't hate.

My spark plug wires are the original OEM on my B16A and say 1995 on them. They work. But would new ones work better?

THEY'RE 14 YEARS OLD!

So vote and leave a comment if you wish.
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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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Is this FWEH3 from clubeg6?

and yeah, I'd go ahead and change them, along with the cap and rotor too, and spark plugs if they haven't already been done.
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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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i dont see why this needs a poll just do it and like the guy above do that stuff as well
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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by racinmason85
Is this FWEH3 from clubeg6?

and yeah, I'd go ahead and change them, along with the cap and rotor too, and spark plugs if they haven't already been done.
Yes I am, what's up!? I changed all the other ignition stuff when I did the swap, just not the wires thanks man!


Originally Posted by [713]
i dont see why this needs a poll just do it and like the guy above do that stuff as well
Polls are a great way for people to give their input without giving it a lot of thought or typing a paragraph, and it's a great way to get fast results.

Also, spark plug wires aren't cheap because if you're like me, I don't buy them from AutoZone because they fall apart. So before purchasing a set of $50+ spark plug wires, I want to do my research to see if I really need to or not.

Thanks for your comment!
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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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Well when you first got the motor you should change spark plugs, spark plugs wire, new timing belt, new water pump etc.
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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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even though they are working right a 14 year old set of wires definately will have some core breakdown and will have lost the "zap" a fresh set has. i would replace them. you got your moneys worth
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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Couldn't hurt...I've got a set of Accels that came on my EM1 but Im going to purchase a set of blue NGKs just because I like to be on top of my maintenance. The accels still work and all, but sometimes I am over the top.

P.S. want some accel wires?
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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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replace
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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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Damm what else is 14 years old on that car? Change that crap already. I change them every 2 years. cuz im **** with my car like that. I like my car running Great all the time.
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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ALLxMOTOR EG
Well when you first got the motor you should change spark plugs, spark plugs wire, new timing belt, new water pump etc.
Oh I did, everything you said except the wires. Thanks for bumping my for sale thread btw

Originally Posted by MJsEFhatch
Couldn't hurt...I've got a set of Accels that came on my EM1 but Im going to purchase a set of blue NGKs just because I like to be on top of my maintenance. The accels still work and all, but sometimes I am over the top.

P.S. want some accel wires?
Hehe, no thanks man, I'm going with Genuine Honda wires.

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Damm what else is 14 years old on that car? Change that crap already. I change them every 2 years. cuz im **** with my car like that. I like my car running Great all the time.
Lol, a lot of stuff but I changed the spark plugs, cap, rotor, dizzy o-ring, valve cover gasket, exhaust mani gaskets, oil pan gasket, timing belt, water pump, tensioner, rad hoses, PS o-rings, and I'm sure more, everything was bought at the dealership. But the wires are original! Lol!
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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rok_Stok
Oh I did, everything you said except the wires. Thanks for bumping my for sale thread btw



Hehe, no thanks man, I'm going with Genuine Honda wires.



Lol, a lot of stuff but I changed the spark plugs, cap, rotor, dizzy o-ring, valve cover gasket, exhaust mani gaskets, oil pan gasket, timing belt, water pump, tensioner, PS o-rings, and I'm sure more, everything was bought at the dealership. But the wires are original! Lol!
Well buy a set of NGK wires and call it a day already. Youll love your car more and your car will love u more.

Atleast thats the brand i always buy
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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mortificationrock
Well buy a set of NGK wires and call it a day already. Youll love your car more and your car will love u more.

Atleast thats the brand i always buy
Well said! I'm going with Genuine Honda because I read an article by Temple of VTEC about a comparison between NGK, generic 8.5mm, and OEM wires and the OEM came on top in a dyno test (difference was negligible though), plus I want black, and I love Honda Parts. (I used to work in Honda Parts, that might have something to do with it.)

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I'm buying them as we speak from Majestic, thanks everyone for your input, the answer was cut and dry.

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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 12:31 AM
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How the hell did those wires last 14 years? i can barely get mine to last 4 years before they start miss firing or cracking.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TravisCadello
How the hell did those wires last 14 years? i can barely get mine to last 4 years before they start miss firing or cracking.
Genuine Honda wires pretty much last forever. Aftermarket? Not so much.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 04:49 AM
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The OEM ignition wires on my 93 Civic were the originals (dated 1992) when I bought the car in 2008. So they lasted some 15+ years. The 1992 wires' resistances were well within spec, and the car ran great with them, but I still replaced them as a pre-emptive measure. Maybe this was unnecessary. The new OEM wires were 0.1 to 0.4 kohms lower in resistance compared to the old ones.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by honda.lioness
The OEM ignition wires on my 93 Civic were the originals (dated 1992) when I bought the car in 2008. So they lasted some 15+ years. The 1992 wires' resistances were well within spec, and the car ran great with them, but I still replaced them as a pre-emptive measure. Maybe this was unnecessary. The new OEM wires were 0.1 to 0.4 kohms lower in resistance compared to the old ones.
This is a great testimony to the high standard of Honda Parts. My D16Z6 still had the original wires when I swapped in the B16. They had 182,000 miles on them and worked great, they said 1993 on them so they were around 16 years old. I'm also replacing the wires as a preemptive measure.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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why would anyone hate? Go ahead and change them. No reason not to at that age.

Just don't get some crappy blue APC aftermarkets or anything like that.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Vindicator9000
why would anyone hate? Go ahead and change them. No reason not to at that age.

Just don't get some crappy blue APC aftermarkets or anything like that.
Because some might see it was a noob question and opportunity to flame. Nobody did, sweet! I went with Genuine Honda wires since they last the longest by far.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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I guess I can understand how someone would be afraid to post here with the amount of flamage we've been doing lately on idiots.

good choice on the genuine Honda. If the original lasts for 100K, the replacement will too.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Rok_Stok
This is a great testimony to the high standard of Honda Parts.
As is your testimony along with what 94EG8 (one of the voices of experience around here, ISTM) wrote.

My D16Z6 still had the original wires when I swapped in the B16. They had 182,000 miles on them and worked great, they said 1993 on them so they were around 16 years old. I'm also replacing the wires as a preemptive measure.
Any chance you could take resistance measurements of the old wires?
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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As is your testimony along with what 94EG8 (one of the voices of experience around here, ISTM) wrote.



Any chance you could take resistance measurements of the old wires?
I don't have one of those devices to measure resistance. Although, I could take it across the street at the University and have it checked, you've got me curious now..

ISTM? The International Society of Travel Medicine?
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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I don't have one of those devices to measure resistance. Although, I could take it across the street at the University and have it checked, you've got me curious now..
Not sure what your budget is or how much car work (or home electrical work) you plan to do in the future, but you can get a perfectly good multimeter, that will do resistance measurements and many other things, for around $15 at places like Ebay, Harbor Freight, Radio Shack and I think even Wal-Mart. Autozone, Pep Boys and Sears want a little more for theirs, like $20-$30.

ISTM? The International Society of Travel Medicine?
:-) ISTM = "It seems to me"
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 08:35 AM
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Yeah jus change them. OEM FTW. But a lot of people have been buying the ebay 10mm Ginormous wires. Does anyone think theyd be effective??? I must say its quite tempting.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by honda.lioness
The OEM ignition wires on my 93 Civic were the originals (dated 1992) when I bought the car in 2008. So they lasted some 15+ years. The 1992 wires' resistances were well within spec, and the car ran great with them, but I still replaced them as a pre-emptive measure. Maybe this was unnecessary. The new OEM wires were 0.1 to 0.4 kohms lower in resistance compared to the old ones.
What should the resistance be on the wires?
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by honda.lioness
Not sure what your budget is or how much car work (or home electrical work) you plan to do in the future, but you can get a perfectly good multimeter, that will do resistance measurements and many other things, for around $15 at places like Ebay, Harbor Freight, Radio Shack and I think even Wal-Mart. Autozone, Pep Boys and Sears want a little more for theirs, like $20-$30.



:-) ISTM = "It seems to me"
Hey, all that is good to know I've used Fluke multimeters at the technology center here, they're like $300 though so $20 is a really good deal, ISTM... oh, and I'll have the new and old wires tested for reference as you did. Very cool test.

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Yeah jus change them. OEM FTW. But a lot of people have been buying the ebay 10mm Ginormous wires. Does anyone think theyd be effective??? I must say its quite tempting.
I am, the wires are already half way here from Maine. Well, a lot of people have been buying them because they're big and cheap. So they think they're getting a lot for their money. They'll soon realize they should have invested in quality wires when their fat ones fall apart in their hands the next time they take them out.

Like I said earlier, TOV (Temple of VTEC) did a test between NGK, generic 8.5mm, and OEM Honda wires, and the Honda wires by far had the smoothest power delivery. Whereas the power curve with the other two brands was choppy. The peak HP was the same for all 3.

This shows Honda does extensive research, to say the least, even regarding spark plug wires. (To ensure the smoothest and most efficient power delivery possible.)
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