So much info and different opinions.

I'm leaning toward the Blox B because of the price comared to a set of used CTR/ITR ive found. I've also read the Blox cams break at the key which worries me. Aiming for around 400hp what are the pros and cons of each cam and especially the Blox compared to the tuners and itr(00-01)/ctr


Are the Blox b drop in, i believe the ctr/itr are?

Thanks

 

My brother has the blox type b's in his Turbo DA and loves them. Great idle, great top end power, and over all good cams for the price. I will be using the same on my build for next year.

 

The B's require springs and retainers how about the Tuners?

 

Ok i got some more info for anyone else interested, The Blox A are the same as Tuner1 and slightly more aggressive then ctr. The Blox B require springs and retainers and are more comparable to the Pro 1's

 

If you are only shooting for 400whp why are you even going to waste money on cams? People can and have made 800+ on GSR Cams........

Look at my sig, GSR Cams.......

 

I was aware 800hp was achievable on gsr cams. Based on what im reading in these threads the ctr/itr or other aftermarket cams will automatically yield more power at least 7-30 depending on what cams i go with.

Ps. im basing my hp figure on what i can make on pump gas, still have not decided if i want to go with 9:1 or 10:1

 

^^ Yes, you can make 7-30whp more on higher cams, but not that much on the street horsepower side of 400whp. Just do a better tune and save the cams for a much larger turbocharger.

But.. whatever... its your money.. spend as you will.. you're just getting a headache over something very small in the grand scheme of things when there are much other more important things to tend to on your build.

 

Well the rest is pretty much covered so now I'm dabbling into the motor build like sleeves, cams, compression etc, the turbo is t3/t4 w/ .57 trim already good for 500hp and no need for bigger turbo for my needs which is a daily driver.

The thought behind the cams is the faster spool and more aggressive lobes and better mid range. If i can get that for under $400 i think its a fair price to pay considering what i have already spent on this project.

If both of you think the gsr cams are good enough that will suffice since ive been out the loop for quite some time.

 

ps, i got the fx400 with the clutchmaster flywheel which has the steel starter ring and it was lighter then the exedy unit both from CM came out just over 700 which is not bad

 

GOOOD!!! ;-). The 57 trim doesn't make 500WHP, just 500hp to the crank, which to the wheels is about 400-430whp, which is over 20psi to get.. Just so that you don't get confused with your goals.

Keep your GS-Rs. You'll be fine.

 

yea understood, which is why my goal is around 400hp, the main limitation is pump gas since i have no plans to race. In the future i may change that but highly unlikely ill hop on the bike for speed and hit the track :-)

 

Just get a set of ITR/CTR Cams, the have OEM Reliability and will make a good amount of power over ITR's, some make 50hp over GSR's with them even on smaller turbo's like yours.

 

I was looking at those and i agree oem is reliable but for the price they are going for it makes sense to get new Blox cams don't you think? My guess is your problem with the blox is the reliability correct? I've read about the issue with the blox and the key area cracking which concerns me but i was assured that was fixed. the Type A and itr/ctr are very similar with the blox slighly slighly more aggressive and use oem valve train. Ill keep an eye out for the ctr/itr

 

Not really, Blox is the cheapest of cheap parts, when building a reliable performance motor I would rather use OEM suff that is proven over stuff that could possible have an issue. They only thing Blox I would ever run would be their Drag Coilovers, and I am still semi nervous about using them....lol

Shop around good ITR/CTR's are everywhere, and can be found for $600 new and cheaper if you got a hookup.

 

Good info, in that case CTR/ITR cams it is, what do you think about the reliability of the Tuner 1's. Personally Blox was never around back then so i don't know much about them but it seems to be a favorite among some. I don't have any of their products on the car now and probably will avoid them based on your observations and opinion.

 

Skunk Cams are good too, the tuner1's will make some power over ITR's and are drop-in as well, and they are not harsh on your rockers like the Pro-Series stuff.

 

Thanks ill be looking for the CTR or Tuner 1's. I found a couple CTR for a good deal so i may stick with those

 

I never read on how much power you wanted to make. B16 cams are good for 400-415whp. My brothers turbo integra before he threw in the blox type b;s had b16 cams and made 411whp at 16.7 PSI/ Just stick with those.

 

Horrible recommendation

B16 Cams are just junk when it comes to making power, GSR Cams will make a considerable difference over B16 and ITR's will make a good bit bit more over GSR's, you can pick up GSR Cams for $50.... IMO 30whp easy for $50 is the best investment you can make.

 

IF he only wants to make 400whp then there is no point in changing the cams....

 

I agree to an extent, but wouldnt it make sense to be able to make 400whp at 12psi (est.) vs 17psi (est.)?

 

Yes, but you make more tq at higher boost.

 

Lol ok dude I am not going to argue with you.

Just to remind you tq is directly related to hp.....

 

im sorry but i made 518 hp at 18psi using a 57 trim,ran 11.3 at 128mph on first pass on full street trim ek got kicked out of he track after that

btw heres the set up
ls/vtec stock bore stock sleeves
port and polish head,supertech valve springs retainer blox b cams
cp flat top pistons,eagle rods,edelbrock intake manifold
t3/to4e turbo 57 trim 63 a/r

 

^^ Must have been one helluva dyno that was SAE corrected... Congrats on your run.