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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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Default Flyweel bolts keep on coming lose on an B18C1....Need Help

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So for the second time this week i have to take the tranny of because the flyweel blots keep on coming lose and rub the clutch disc. Earlier on this week i put then on lock tight and tightened then and they still came lose. Im becoming a pro at taking the tranny of lol
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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Nobody knows why and how to prevent this from happening..?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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replacce the bolts to some ARP.. what are you torqueing the bolts at? you should check flywheel runout with a dial indicator to check if fly wheel is warped
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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I also had this same problem once. Replace them with stock or ARP and you will be all set. I bought the OEM ones and have had know problems.
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replacce the bolts to some ARP.. what are you torqueing the bolts at? you should check flywheel runout with a dial indicator to check if fly wheel is warped
I dont have the tools to do it.
I will be taking the tranny of today.
I torque them to about 80pound.
Shuld i torque them more?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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I also had this same problem once. Replace them with stock or ARP and you will be all set. I bought the OEM ones and have had know problems.
How much is a set of EOM ones gonna run me. I dont want to dump more money into this car then i already have done.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/...All&vinsrch=no

#8. Part number is 90011-PH3-000 you need 8
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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I dont have the tools to do it.
I will be taking the tranny of today.
I torque them to about 80pound.
Shuld i torque them more?
it also happened to me once the treads also got messed up on the crank i just chased te treads and replaced the bolts with some stock ones i had lying around. i usually just gun them on. and i have 550whp and so far they havent came out yet...
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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threads get loose and mangled after enough times on and off. buy some arp bolts since they are stronger than factory, clean everything really good with brake clean, use red loctite on the threads and assemble. i've been in the same boat, nothing pisses you off more than installing the tranny and driving 2 miles only to hear that flywheel banging around.
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threads get loose and mangled after enough times on and off. buy some arp bolts since they are stronger than factory, clean everything really good with brake clean, use red loctite on the threads and assemble. i've been in the same boat, nothing pisses you off more than installing the tranny and driving 2 miles only to hear that flywheel banging around.
I have the blue lock tite stuff and i used plenty on there and it still came lose. Im tinking the surface were the flyweel mets the crank is not staraight causing it to vibrate.
My flyweel doesnt bang around. Earlier on this week i took the tranny of because my clutch wouldnt let me engage and wen i drove there was this ratling noise. I took the tranny of and the clutch to find out that atleast 6 of the 8 bolts were lose to the point were i can unscreew them with my fingers and one bolt (the one that was making all the ratling noises) was hiting the clutch disc and was halfway ground of. If i had a welder id just tak weld them in there lmao jk
Any other ideas, hints.
Will be taking the tranny of in about 2 hours and will post detailed pics of whats happening.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bigislandc2
it also happened to me once the treads also got messed up on the crank i just chased te treads and replaced the bolts with some stock ones i had lying around. i usually just gun them on. and i have 550whp and so far they havent came out yet...
yeah two bolts are mesed up for shure that i know of.
Finding the right tools to clean up the treads will be a pain in the *** for me.
What is the specs on the grind tool that i need for the flywell bolts. Like tread pitch etc etc.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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dont even bother trying to clean them up. if the thread pitch becomes worn they will shake loose, they are also hardened steel that's a major bitch to try and rethread. also, if any chunks of anything are between the flyweel and crank this is a major problem. i sanded mine flat before install so it was ultra smooth. just buy the arp flywheel bolt kit, it's only $50 and worth every penny

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ARP-F...QQcmdZViewItem

this is the kit you would want to use

if you do this right once you'll never have to again.
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Default Re: Flyweel bolts keep on coming lose on an B18C1....Need Help

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dont even bother trying to clean them up. if the thread pitch becomes worn they will shake loose, they are also hardened steel that's a major bitch to try and rethread. also, if any chunks of anything are between the flyweel and crank this is a major problem. i sanded mine flat before install so it was ultra smooth. just buy the arp flywheel bolt kit, it's only $50 and worth every penny

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ARP-F...QQcmdZViewItem

this is the kit you would want to use

if you do this right once you'll never have to again.
Thing is im seeling the car and dont want to spend more money.
There apeared to be some uneven bumps in the flyweel were it goes to the crank.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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You can get a lil tool to find thread pitch pretty cheap, just like feeler gauges but it's metal shims w/ teeth on it instead. If I had a flywheel bolt I'd go ahead and tell you but I don't have one to check ;*(

You could just take the bolt w/ you somewhere and use the took off the shelf instead of buying it But it's probably only a few bucks.

There's two ways you can clean the threads on the bolt. Either by a thread file, or using the female tap. I've only used the thread files to clean out crap that's kinda stuck in the threads, or if I've dropped a bigger bolt and just put a knick on it.

If you need to clean the tap on the crank or whatever, you'll need the male tap of course. But if the threads are stripped I duno what all you can do.

You should be able to pick up some ARP bolts off of ebay pretty cheap. I got a set for my MR2 for $50 last week.

I've never used locktight either, just torque according to specs. I reused my stock ones on my turbo del sol and haven't had any problems whatsoever, but I had the entire rotating assembly rebalanced before I rebuilt it all.
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Ok so i took of the tranny of today finnaly and he bolts were all lose but they were not hiiiting the clutch disc.
Now i am stuped to what was making al the ratling noise.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by igorka_91
and will post detailed pics of whats happening.
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were are the pics
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 10:56 PM
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you are tourqing to 80lb/ft!? im pretty sure its like 54lb/ft. i think you over tourqued and stripped em. therefore they would fall out. that sucks if thats the case. look up the tourque specs. pretty sure its not no dang 80lb/ft.
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it's 80lb, i actually set mine at 100lb
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Originally Posted by danielblushtein
were are the pics
the bolts werent hitting the clutch disc this time so there is no need for pics IMO
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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While i have the tranny of is there anything that i should be loking for......I tried pushing the crank back and forth and there is no travel.....Something lese was making the noises.
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you need to make sure it's clean on the snout and on the back of the flywheel
you need to brake clean and scrub the bolts
use red loctite
brake clean the crank threads and q tip out the grease.

if you won't buy new bolts this is your best bet on making it work
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Heres some pics of the flyweel





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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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get the air sander out on that crank snout with 180grit. with all that crap on there nothing will seat right and you will have a flywheel spinning out of true. personally, if it were me, i would replace the flywheel and the bolts. however, i'm thinking you will want to try it again. once you get the crap off the crank, wire brush the inside of the flywheel before you do the bolt up.
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get the air sander out on that crank snout with 180grit. with all that crap on there nothing will seat right and you will have a flywheel spinning out of true. personally, if it were me, i would replace the flywheel and the bolts. however, i'm thinking you will want to try it again. once you get the crap off the crank, wire brush the inside of the flywheel before you do the bolt up.
Nah i found a gsr flyweel that has been resurfaced for 50obo.....ill try to get it for around 30 and then go buy some new bolts and clean up the two mesed up bolt holes that i have in there with a tap. Im tred of taking of the tranny 2 times a week.
Thank for the help idrivesideways and the rest of you guys that oitched in youre knowlege Thanks
If any more ideas plz keep on posting them .
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What car is this flyweel of. I know its a bseries flyweel. Can it be for a older gsr or something like that because it is lighter then my mesed up flyweel.
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My flyweel is on the left and the one i aquired is on the right......?

again mines on the left and the one i got is on the right and its alot lighter.

So what kinda flyweel is this.
I loked on google for a b16 flyweels and theres no back pics. .
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