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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Today my H22 turbo Prelude was getting dyno'd, while it was being put under a 3k rpm load the car went from a normal pitch to an extremely high pitch sound. After visual inspection the timing belt got chewed up pretty bad and it jumped timing. Any ideas of what could have caused this?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 08:54 AM
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misalinged timing gear? pullies?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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I have a feeling that is what the problem was, but worst case senario what else could cause this.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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Loose adjustable cam gear?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Varano44
Today my H22 turbo Prelude was getting dyno'd, while it was being put under a 3k rpm load the car went from a normal pitch to an extremely high pitch sound. After visual inspection the timing belt got chewed up pretty bad and it jumped timing. Any ideas of what could have caused this?
Did you do the H23 tensioner conversion or still using the auto tensioner ?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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they are stock gears with the auto tensioner.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Varano44
they are stock gears with the auto tensioner.
Possible your auto tensioner took a ****.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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If the timing was off in the first place could that have caused this problem?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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Auto tensioners go back on box stock cars so on a turbo car it can fail pretty fast. If the cam timing was off shouldnt you have noticed that before you/your tuner attempted to make a single dyno pull?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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No you can drive around with timing off and the tbelt will not shread.

A shreaded t belt is because the gears arent lined up properly.

If you have an auto tensionor, odds are that it did take a **** on you. If you have a manual tensinor this would not happen.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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This was my first project that I worked on by myself and when I did the timing belt I didnt feel 100% with it so I asked my tuner to look at it. So maybe he never even checked it over. Are there any internal problems that could arise from this?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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Could have bent your valves messes up the pistons its hard to say possibly could have dropped a valve and had it go threw the motor or nothing could have went wrong and your a lucky man. The only way to find out it fit the t-belt and do a compression check and leakdown test and go from there if your #'s are low or you have a 0compression or 100% leakdown cylinder I would pull the head. Goodluck
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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Is this something the tuner should have caught or is this a no fault situation?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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im going to be doing a timing belt change. ive noticed shopping around for a timing belt, alot of different places have different amount of teeth on the belt? does it matter how many teeth are actually on the belt? more teeth the better? can anyone help??
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by acc0rdf22
im going to be doing a timing belt change. ive noticed shopping around for a timing belt, alot of different places have different amount of teeth on the belt? does it matter how many teeth are actually on the belt? more teeth the better? can anyone help??
I would stick with Honda OEM
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Inextricabledrvr
I would stick with Honda OEM
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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156 teeth line up better so far from my current research. I am trying to do the h22 timing belt install on a h23 manual tensioner with the honda vtec belt (155) right now.

Also side note, a good reason why the auto tensioner (hydraulic) may fail for some people is that they dont maintain it. It does have a way for you to add oil there has to be a level maintained.

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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by autoluder
156 teeth line up better so far from my current research. I am trying to do the h22 timing belt install on a h23 manual tensioner with the honda vtec belt (155) right now.

Also side note, a good reason why the auto tensioner (hydraulic) may fail for some people is that they dont maintain it. It does have a way for you to add oil there has to be a level maintained.

Even with the manual tensioner you still need to use the OE h22 belt. Its a tight fit, but its the proper belt.

I have never heard of needing to maintain the auto tensioner. If its in good working order it should never need to have fluid added.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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Found out it was the tensioner that broke, monday will determine the condition of the motor.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Sorry to hear...plz keep us updated. Mine took a crap for the 3rd time a few weeks ago *shakes fist*
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by R666_EK
Even with the manual tensioner you still need to use the OE h22 belt. Its a tight fit, but its the proper belt.

I have never heard of needing to maintain the auto tensioner. If its in good working order it should never need to have fluid added.
It should be topped up if you let fuild out of the system for one reason or another. Sometimes fuild leaks out of the screw hole during installation so you have to top it off. Manual tensioner. Thats whats going in my h22a vtec as we speak. New Energy polyurithane motor mounts, and new header aswell. Should be a fun drive, I can't wait.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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Its so much easier to just go to a manual tensionor when doing a timing belt. I dont know the eaxct prices but I bet that they are close.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 05:34 AM
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installation is much harder to do with the manual tensioner on h22.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 05:56 AM
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Well I finally got the word on the compression test and it showed 180 on all four. I have JE 9:1 pistons are these pretty good numbers?

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