B16a Mild NA Build - Just a feeler w/ Questions
So i just swapped in a b16a into my 94 hatch. Slowly getting the cel codes worked out but as my car sits this winter im going to build a block for next spring. Now i know this isn't anything that anyone has done yet but all im going to to is tell you guys my wants and what ill be using my car for and hope i get good advice or constructive critisism. This is my DD(besides winter) and i plan to do some lapping days and autoX hopefully.
My plan was to purchase a spare b16/gsr block so i dont have to pull my motor so i can work on it. I wanted to go the stroker route and this is what i had in mind.
Looking for about 180 to the wheels
b16 block
stock crank - unless theres a better choice for me
gsr/type r rods - ^^ Same
type r pistons - Ive read that dropping these into a b16a block yields only a 10.24 to 1 CR, not sure if thats a reliable source. I was looking for around 11.5-12 CR
Block guard
As far as building the head i was gonna go with
Type R cams
Port and Polished head aswell
Some sort of valvetrain upgrade whether it be Skunk2 or w/e i decide to go with
Maybe a cometic HG to bump the CR up a bit
I already have the B16B Intake Manifold
My plan was to purchase a spare b16/gsr block so i dont have to pull my motor so i can work on it. I wanted to go the stroker route and this is what i had in mind.
Looking for about 180 to the wheels
b16 block
stock crank - unless theres a better choice for me
gsr/type r rods - ^^ Same
type r pistons - Ive read that dropping these into a b16a block yields only a 10.24 to 1 CR, not sure if thats a reliable source. I was looking for around 11.5-12 CR
Block guard
As far as building the head i was gonna go with
Type R cams
Port and Polished head aswell
Some sort of valvetrain upgrade whether it be Skunk2 or w/e i decide to go with
Maybe a cometic HG to bump the CR up a bit
I already have the B16B Intake Manifold
Last edited by B Dap; Sep 23, 2009 at 10:15 AM.
**also im running a crappy 421 1 piece DC Sports Ceramic header w/ a 2.5" exhaust
if theres any info im leaving out just ask and ill let you know
if theres any info im leaving out just ask and ill let you know
Whats up man, I would just go with building a gsr block as far as a cometic head gasket I would run oem. As far as valve train I would go with supertech, and as far as piston and rod combo, just do it big and find a good deal on some forged pistons and rods. Type r cams are good, but if you can get a deal on pro 1's you will probably make a bit more power. I had 11.5:1 in my gsr with pro2's and an smsp and made a bit over 200.
Then buy my exhaust so it makes good power and sounds to nice.
Then buy my exhaust so it makes good power and sounds to nice.
Whats up man, I would just go with building a gsr block as far as a cometic head gasket I would run oem. As far as valve train I would go with supertech, and as far as piston and rod combo, just do it big and find a good deal on some forged pistons and rods. Type r cams are good, but if you can get a deal on pro 1's you will probably make a bit more power. I had 11.5:1 in my gsr with pro2's and an smsp and made a bit over 200.
Then buy my exhaust so it makes good power and sounds to nice.
Then buy my exhaust so it makes good power and sounds to nice.
I still have more research to do but thank you for this input...I know this has benn asked a million times, i did search but i didnt find any builds with what i was looking for really.
I want that exhaust so f'ing bad dude!
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get rid of that header, first of all.
second, are you talking about civic type-r pistons or integra type-r pistons?
third, don't use pct pistons in a gsr/ls block. in my opinion, the compression is too high for a reliable, daily driven motor.
with a good port and polish, good header and exhaust, a 2 layer headgasket, and tuning, you should be able to squeeze decent power from a b16. we drive all motor hondas...the torque isnt going to be all that great in the big scheme of things. ive had a built b16 that put down 190 (without a port and polish) and a 1.8 liter that put down 219. they were both equally fun to drive and both motors had good times at the track. personally, i like b16's and i think they are a bit under-rated.
second, are you talking about civic type-r pistons or integra type-r pistons?
third, don't use pct pistons in a gsr/ls block. in my opinion, the compression is too high for a reliable, daily driven motor.
with a good port and polish, good header and exhaust, a 2 layer headgasket, and tuning, you should be able to squeeze decent power from a b16. we drive all motor hondas...the torque isnt going to be all that great in the big scheme of things. ive had a built b16 that put down 190 (without a port and polish) and a 1.8 liter that put down 219. they were both equally fun to drive and both motors had good times at the track. personally, i like b16's and i think they are a bit under-rated.
get rid of that header, first of all.
second, are you talking about civic type-r pistons or integra type-r pistons?
third, don't use pct pistons in a gsr/ls block. in my opinion, the compression is too high for a reliable, daily driven motor.
with a good port and polish, good header and exhaust, a 2 layer headgasket, and tuning, you should be able to squeeze decent power from a b16. we drive all motor hondas...the torque isnt going to be all that great in the big scheme of things. ive had a built b16 that put down 190 (without a port and polish) and a 1.8 liter that put down 219. they were both equally fun to drive and both motors had good times at the track. personally, i like b16's and i think they are a bit under-rated.
second, are you talking about civic type-r pistons or integra type-r pistons?
third, don't use pct pistons in a gsr/ls block. in my opinion, the compression is too high for a reliable, daily driven motor.
with a good port and polish, good header and exhaust, a 2 layer headgasket, and tuning, you should be able to squeeze decent power from a b16. we drive all motor hondas...the torque isnt going to be all that great in the big scheme of things. ive had a built b16 that put down 190 (without a port and polish) and a 1.8 liter that put down 219. they were both equally fun to drive and both motors had good times at the track. personally, i like b16's and i think they are a bit under-rated.
personally, i wouldnt stroke it at all
since u r gonna hav an extra block of some type i wood jus increase the bore to bout 85mm and call it a day. with a nice head, cams, compression, intake manifold, header and tuning u wil b the talk of the town!
Ya.. making WTQ and WHP .. what are doing modding hondas in the first place..
Seriously dude.. There's a reason people gain as much whp / wtq as bolting on a turbo kit when you "Stroke" a motor.. are you that ignorant to the fact?

Seriously dude.. There's a reason people gain as much whp / wtq as bolting on a turbo kit when you "Stroke" a motor.. are you that ignorant to the fact?
show me and everyone here on H-T where stroking an engine made as much power as bolting on a turbo
How ignorant am I??? is what u shood b askin yourself....
seriuosly dude
however, i AM saying maintain a decent rod ratio when u do so!!!!
basically, thats impossible to do unless u increase deck height, run a 17mm piston pin and use 25mm compression height pistons
FIN
itr pistons would give you lower compression in a b16 block than the original b16 pistons.
ctr pistons would be ideal. the compression ratio for those in a b16 are around 11.6-11.8:1.
ctr pistons would be ideal. the compression ratio for those in a b16 are around 11.6-11.8:1.



