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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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i got an 94 hatch with b18b1 swap.. i had msd on the car .and went to wire up a slim fan to the stock plug for plug and play.. the car wouldnt start would crank but no start.. soo bought a new blaster coil and the yellow n black wire (power wire) and it went up in flames. have bought a new dizzy and now i dont get no spark out the dizzy .got new engine harness .. get power to the dizzy but not out ..checked all fuses are good.. also my fuel pumps not priming im not getting power to the fuel pump..check the main relay it clicks and all and im not sure if its good .. i have used a new ecu and still no spark or fuel pump an answers im stumbled
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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Get rid of the POS external coil and put a stock dizzy back in the car.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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Get rid of the POS external coil and put a stock dizzy back in the car.



Also check whether hood fuse 31 or dash fuse 24 or 18 are blown.



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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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damn man,sounds like me and you are in the same boat.Im having problems getting my car to start as well.Good luck with your problem man,I know it can be frustrating.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 03:31 AM
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id ditch the msd, and pull off the fuel return line and try to start the car if fuel shoots out the fpr then your pump is primeing
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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today tryed the fuel pump the fuel pump works hooked it up to a 12v bat but wont prime wen plug in to the hareness
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Did you replace all 3 main relay fuses with known good fuses? Have you tried resoldering/replacing the main relay?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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i put a new main fuse that has todo with the fuel pump thats the only one that has todo with the fuel pump that i know i didnt try the otherb but i can
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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I guess there should be a FAQ that tells you to check all of your fuses before you make a post stating you have an electrical problem.

Here is my step by step:

1. Check all of the fuses in your car. Under the dash and under the hood. If any are blown, make a post that states what fuse(s) blew. If you replaced the fuse, did the problem come back?
2. If you checked/replaced fuses and another one blew or if none were blown at all, make a post with your problem. Until you have checked all of your fuses, you are not prepared to click the "new thread" button.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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again i have checked all the fuses everything.... none of them are blown nothing im prettysure i noted that in another one but people still tell me to check the fuses they should read i think i fried the dash harness AGAIN NONE OF THE FUSES ARE BLOWN AGAIN
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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i put a new main fuse that has todo with the fuel pump thats the only one that has todo with the fuel pump that i know i didnt try the otherb but i can
Right there you stated you DID NOT check all the fuses. In this thread, you did not previously state that all of the fuses were good. You did state that you "didnt try the otherb but i can". That would tell anyone that knows how to read that you did not check the fuses.

OK, if you have, in fact, checked all of your fuses, you need to determine what you are "missing". Are you missing spark, fuel, or both?

If it's only spark, is the "new dizzy" actually new or is it a used one you bought? Have you tried it in another vehicle to verify that it's working if you got it used? If you did not have paper clips in there for fuses, you should not have had your factory harness go up in smoke. Now, it would be awfully easy to back-feed the ECU and burn a trace in it. If the dizzy checks out and all of your fuses are good, I'd suspect the ECU could have gotten nailed. This could also explain a no fuel/no spark problem.

If you can find any other hints to give us, fill us in. The more info we have, the better we can help get your problem figured out.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 09:21 PM
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Right there you stated you DID NOT check all the fuses. In this thread, you did not previously state that all of the fuses were good. You did state that you "didnt try the otherb but i can". That would tell anyone that knows how to read that you did not check the fuses.

OK, if you have, in fact, checked all of your fuses, you need to determine what you are "missing". Are you missing spark, fuel, or both?

If it's only spark, is the "new dizzy" actually new or is it a used one you bought? Have you tried it in another vehicle to verify that it's working if you got it used? If you did not have paper clips in there for fuses, you should not have had your factory harness go up in smoke. Now, it would be awfully easy to back-feed the ECU and burn a trace in it. If the dizzy checks out and all of your fuses are good, I'd suspect the ECU could have gotten nailed. This could also explain a no fuel/no spark problem.

If you can find any other hints to give us, fill us in. The more info we have, the better we can help get your problem figured out.
Nicely put Ryan.

OP, I can't tell you how many times people here claim with great confidence that they checked all the fuses, and it turns out that their problem was a blown fuse. Therefore, I'm really unclear whether you have properly checked all three main relay fuses. Same holds for the main relay.

Other than fuses, main relay, and ECU, you should also check the ground on the thermostat housing. If this critical ground is disconnected or corroded, you will have no spark and no fuel.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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okay i checked n tryed the 3 main fuses on someone elses car today they worked . i bought brandnew dizzy from the store and i put a good ecu that was in my buddys car n stil ho fuel or spark
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Is the ground at the T stat housing good? How about the trans to "frame rail" ground and the valve cover to rad support ground? Any smell of "magic smoke" inside the car?
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 08:01 AM
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were is fuse 24 is located exactly cant find if .. if somebody could send a picture if possible
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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were is fuse 24 is located exactly cant find if .. if somebody could send a picture if possible
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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okay i put the fuse in no spark i jumped started it today with paperclip it ran. dont get power two the to blk n yellow wires.. the power wire to the fuelpump is shorted out some were dont have curencey through it
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nhamilton122
dont get power two the to blk n yellow wires..
Do you mean the Yel/Blk wire? If so, check whether hood fuse 31 is blown.

How do you know that the main relay is not bad?
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 07:04 AM
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yea the 2 blk n yel wires.. fuses 31 is not blown all the fuses are not blow .. the main relay is goood i put it on my buddys eg and it ran.. but i dont get power from the blk/yel wire
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