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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Default MT ET street VS M&H racemaster street&strip

so im looking or opinions on which tire is better for traction.....and i mean for every kind of use.....street and track.

Im looking at the actual MT ET STREET(NOT THE ET STREET RADIAL)in a
275/50R15(26X11.50R15)

http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/s...?item=ETStreet

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The M&H Racemaster Street&Strip in a 275/50/15 (26X11.50R15)

http://www.mandhtires.com/store.php?...on=show_detail


(These tires will be going on a DC2 teg on a 15x9 wheel and extended studs with spacers and what not)

So what do you all think would work best? And do you think the 235's would work better than the 275's i am looking at?
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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i would go with the mickey thompson personally. im sure both tires are equally ok
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Interested in how you plan to drive a Honda on the street with 275/50/15's safely and actually be able to turn, I dont think spacers are going to cut it
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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Interested in how you plan to drive a Honda on the street with 275/50/15's safely and actually be able to turn, I dont think spacers are going to cut it
There's actually plenty of people that do.
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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In for how they do it and still be able to make a turn like a street car should, I know 26x10's are hard to fit so I would imagine 26x11.5's would be harder.
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Well im looking for opinions in either street or strip, but if and when i would use these on the street, its not like i would plan on driving around town for fun with these big as tires on...obviously they would only be used when something is set up for a run.....but like i said im looking or street/strip opinions.

Dester223 i am also interested to hear of the people that do it....its reassuring that you say its been done, but i would like some clarity on the statement.
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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A good customer of mine with a EK hatch rolls around on the 275-50-15 nitto 555R drag radials. Stock front end with drag 15x7 wheels and everything fit. Going from the 235-60-15 M&H to the 275-50-15 was night and day difference for him. The 275s just plain hooked in 3rd and 4th whereas the 235-60-15 M&Hs would get blown off. He makes mid 600 whp with his and he loves them. Even kept power steering just so it's easier for him to drive on the streets.

I've even had the 26x10.50x15 MT ET streets on my EG hatch and it fit. It can be done.

Difference wise, you can probably get a MT a little cheaper than the M&H. I haven't had a side by side same size comparison so I don't know which would be better. I think it'd come out very similar.
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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So your customer put an 11.5" wide tire on a 7" wide wheel? I didnt think that would even be possible, do you have some pics of the car?
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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well this is good to hear.....so from personal use MT or M&H in that size? or any brand really
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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So your customer put an 11.5" wide tire on a 7" wide wheel? I didnt think that would even be possible, do you have some pics of the car?
Yep, you got me. I made it up.



Those drag wheels on the back is what he mounted his 275s on. He obviously had his 13" lensos on the front for the event.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 03:02 AM
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im just running the mickey thompson 225/50-15s on some fat five wheels. i make around 460ish and cut 1.9 60fts and ive been 11.50 on them. i do have boost by gear and launch control tho.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 05:02 AM
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^^^cool, how do you think that work for you out on the street compared to the strip?
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 05:34 AM
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Yep, you got me. I made it up.



Those drag wheels on the back is what he mounted his 275s on. He obviously had his 13" lensos on the front for the event.
I think you are taking offence to something that you shouldnt be, all I suggested is I didnt know you could fit a tire safely that is 4.5" wider than the wheel, in for pics of said wheel tire combo........
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 07:27 AM
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^^^cool, how do you think that work for you out on the street compared to the strip?
street is great. i run 27psi for normal driving and at the track i seem to have my best luck with them around 14psi. but on the 27psi on the street they feel like normal old radial tires.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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I have mounted a couple of mt et street 10.50 on aluminium wheels and those tires are heavy as hell comared to the et drag.. I can see how those tires would break alot of drivelines on hondas.
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Originally Posted by dester223
A good customer of mine with a EK hatch rolls around on the 275-50-15 nitto 555R drag radials. Stock front end with drag 15x7 wheels and everything fit. Going from the 235-60-15 M&H to the 275-50-15 was night and day difference for him. The 275s just plain hooked in 3rd and 4th whereas the 235-60-15 M&Hs would get blown off. He makes mid 600 whp with his and he loves them. Even kept power steering just so it's easier for him to drive on the streets.

I've even had the 26x10.50x15 MT ET streets on my EG hatch and it fit. It can be done.

Difference wise, you can probably get a MT a little cheaper than the M&H. I haven't had a side by side same size comparison so I don't know which would be better. I think it'd come out very similar.
Dester, how was the 26x10.50x15 traction wise on the street compare to the 275? thanks buddy.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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in for pics of said wheel tire combo........
Im curious to see pics of these 275s too, not the slicks on lensos. This is on stock ride height? and what spacers?
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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Im curious to see pics of these 275s too, not the slicks on lensos. This is on stock ride height? and what spacers?
I'll see what I can do as far as pictures. I will probably go over to his house sometime this week. Maybe I'll snap a picture if I remember to.

Stock ride height? No, he has full bodied coilovers. I don't think I ever said stock height. I said stock body panels.

And what spacers? I am not sure on that one either. Maybe no spacer. I got another guy from another shop that mounted the same setup. I asked him to snap a picture and post it up if he has time.
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Originally Posted by 96 GSR-T
So your customer put an 11.5" wide tire on a 7" wide wheel? I didnt think that would even be possible, do you have some pics of the car?
7.5-9.5 is whats recommended.. Im sure you could squeeze it on a 7 though.

I use the the 235/60/15's on all 4 corners of my dsm, I have them on a 6.5" wheel. Similar size to the 275/50/15 just 2" less on the width.. same height.

Its a OK tire for me, When track prep is GOOD and track is hot, Car hooks well.. When its cold, I blast all 4 out of the hole.. If i played with my 2 step and how much power I left with it would be OK cold.. but its set up to go fast when track prep is good.. which is when it counts.

I don't know why you guys mess around with these ET streets and what not. I would honestly go with the Hoosier QTP's still a street legal tire, and a hell of a lot better.. They will be on my car next season.
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Dester, how was the 26x10.50x15 traction wise on the street compare to the 275? thanks buddy.
Sorry. I never had the 275s on my car. I only had the 235-60-15 M&H (I could light those up on a 600 hp setup for most of 3rd and some of 4th gear.

On the 26x10.50x15. I never launched it on the street. I did a pull on the highway with it and it did better than the 235 M&H but it still was roasting the tires, but that was when the car got the 800+ hp setup. So no real side by side comparison on the same setup for me.
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I have mounted a couple of mt et street 10.50 on aluminium wheels and those tires are heavy as hell comared to the et drag.. I can see how those tires would break alot of drivelines on hondas.
The tires are very heavy.. Im scared having them on all 4 corners of my DSM hahah. However, VS the stock 17's that I had from a 98 talon with just normal summer tires, the MT ET streets on a 15" lightweight wheel were a lighter combo by 5lbs per corner.

The Hoosier QTP's are 10lbs+ lighter per tire over the MT et streets
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I don't know why you guys mess around with these ET streets and what not. I would honestly go with the Hoosier QTP's still a street legal tire, and a hell of a lot better.. They will be on my car next season.
I agree on this comment. The hoosiers felt a LOT lighter than the et streets. Also, I think the hoosiers are a radial design where the ET is a bias ply.

I think a lot of guys still use MT because they have so many "local" sources that can get it, whereas the hoosiers are all ordered through hoosier or jegs/summit.
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Originally Posted by dester223
I'll see what I can do as far as pictures. I will probably go over to his house sometime this week. Maybe I'll snap a picture if I remember to.

Stock ride height? No, he has full bodied coilovers. I don't think I ever said stock height. I said stock body panels.

And what spacers? I am not sure on that one either. Maybe no spacer. I got another guy from another shop that mounted the same setup. I asked him to snap a picture and post it up if he has time.
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Cool. See what you can do for pics, id like to run them on my set-up. You never said stock height, I was just curious. Look into spacing if you can too
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Originally Posted by HamiltonRex
7.5-9.5 is whats recommended.. Im sure you could squeeze it on a 7 though.

I use the the 235/60/15's on all 4 corners of my dsm, I have them on a 6.5" wheel. Similar size to the 275/50/15 just 2" less on the width.. same height.

Its a OK tire for me, When track prep is GOOD and track is hot, Car hooks well.. When its cold, I blast all 4 out of the hole.. If i played with my 2 step and how much power I left with it would be OK cold.. but its set up to go fast when track prep is good.. which is when it counts.

I don't know why you guys mess around with these ET streets and what not. I would honestly go with the Hoosier QTP's still a street legal tire, and a hell of a lot better.. They will be on my car next season.
Rex, I see you have a dsm, have you tried using the qtp's on your honda? what size do you think is good for 750+whp thanks bud.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:58 AM
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I think everyone is in the same position as me after reading this tread................ How the hell do you fit 275's on a honda

Drag 15x7 wheels, what offset????

In for pictures...... always though 245 would have been a push
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