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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 08:19 PM
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I have been tossing about this for a while, and have decided that a good investment for my car is a roll bar. The one which seems to be the most practical for my car is the Autopower Street Bar. However, I was looking on S&M Racing and I noticed that where the bar mounts in the back of the car, the screws go through the body and down where the tire is. This worried me, and I was just wondering if anybody has lowered their car significantly (~1.5") and has the roll bar. I don't want to invest in this bar, and then have one of the screws puncture a tire... Pictures of what I am talking about follow, courtesy of S&M Racing...



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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 08:35 PM
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ummmm... turn the bolts the other way!
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 08:36 PM
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What about reversing the bolts so that the bolt head faces the tire?
Just a thought.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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heh, you should have kept reading the page Those pix are me lining up the bolts with the holes to make sure everything was kosher, here's the final mounting with the seam sealer on the backing plate:


if your car is insanely low, i guess it could be a problem, but i'd think that other problems would present themselves before the bolts became an issue. If you're super worried, get a kirk bar, they go back into the trunk.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 10:19 PM
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Not only do rollbars/rollcages give rollover protection but they also strengthen the chasis A LOT. I'll upload some pics of my Safety21 6point cage later.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 10:24 PM
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Kirk and Autopower bars aren't NHRA approved.

They're made for road racing.

Also NHRA mandates a rollbar for hardtop cars running 11.99 or quicker and convertibles running 13.99 or quicker.
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 12:19 AM
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6 point wled in!
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 03:00 PM
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Kirk and Autopower bars aren't NHRA approved.

They're made for road racing.

Also NHRA mandates a rollbar for hardtop cars running 11.99 or quicker and convertibles running 13.99 or quicker.
My bad on the incorrect time... So what you're saying Reid is on the off chance that in the future my car ran an 11.99 and I did have the Autopower Street Roll bar in my car they still would not let me run my car? If that is the case, what street style roll bar can I use?
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 03:09 PM
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I would say that Monkey Bars are more suited to your needs.
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 03:11 PM
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What about using carriage bolts... the ones with the smooth round head and the square shoulder underneath. If you're really worried...
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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heh, you should have kept reading the page Those pix are me lining up the bolts with the holes to make sure everything was kosher, here's the final mounting with the seam sealer on the backing plate:


if your car is insanely low, i guess it could be a problem, but i'd think that other problems would present themselves before the bolts became an issue. If you're super worried, get a kirk bar, they go back into the trunk.
I would think that would be ok?
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 03:20 PM
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Anyone ever get a bolted on cage welded in place?

What would be the consequences of welding a bolt on cage instead of bolting it on?
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 03:20 PM
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Now the issue is getting a roll bar which will be acceptable for the drag strip; i.e. NHRA approved.
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 03:21 PM
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Get the Autopower Race bar with the removable cross braces, and turn the bolds the other way.

If your car is lowered for race then it woun't be a problem, but if it is for show, then get the Monkey bars
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 03:24 PM
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Now the issue is getting a roll bar which will be acceptable for the drag strip; i.e. NHRA approved.
I believe that if you add in a door bar(could be a swing out removable bar) it would be a 5 point and thus making it legal...can't remember if bolt-in's are legal in unibody cars though
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 03:24 PM
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You only need a roll bar if you are running 11.99 and under ET's.

13.99 and under you need a helmet
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 03:26 PM
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That car is going to grenade itself before it runs 11.99s. Call it a hunch.
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 03:30 PM
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You only need a roll bar if you are running 11.99 and under ET's.

13.99 and under you need a helmet
I'm not so much worried about the 11.99 ETs, I just want something that will protect me in a roll-over situation. However, I do not want to waste the money on it and find out I can't use it on the track in the event that I do at some point hit an 11.99.
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 03:37 PM
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You only need a roll bar if you are running 11.99 and under ET's.

13.99 and under you need a helmet
Per NHRA it must have a 5 point roll bar...among other things, such as a scattershield, approved jacket, gloves...yada, yada, yada...it'll take you a while to hit those numbers...your biggest problem will be traction Period.
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 03:50 PM
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I would say that Monkey Bars are more suited to your needs.
The likelihood of that car ever getting the roll cage treatment is as likely as it will ever be powered by DRAG.

or Spoon and JUN in the past.
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 04:06 PM
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The likelihood of that car ever getting the roll cage treatment is as likely as it will ever be powered by DRAG.

or Spoon and JUN in the past.
that's what I'm talking about
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Old Aug 29, 2002 | 12:29 AM
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I would say that Monkey Bars are more suited to your needs.

The likelihood of that car ever getting the roll cage treatment is as likely as it will ever be powered by DRAG.

or Spoon and JUN in the past.

hey! that's what im talking about too!
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Old Aug 29, 2002 | 04:18 AM
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ummmm... turn the bolts the other way!
That's what I did on mine, and George's car and it woeks fine.

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Old Aug 29, 2002 | 04:55 AM
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I'm a big safety fanatic. However, the chance of your ITR rolling at a drag strip is very slim at this point. Get your car into the 12 second range first, then think about roll cage.

There another thing that I truely will never understand is why drag racers who run 13's or slower, buy those huge monster tach's. It's drag racing, you can stare at the tach all you want, there are no turns ahead of you...unless of course you are a street racer, in which case, there are all sorts of stuff you need to look out for, like pedestrians, traffic, animals, abnormalities on the road and cops

I'm not so much worried about the 11.99 ETs, I just want something that will protect me in a roll-over situation. However, I do not want to waste the money on it and find out I can't use it on the track in the event that I do at some point hit an 11.99.
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Old Aug 29, 2002 | 05:44 AM
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you really have no clue about drag racing do you?
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