My buddy is about to get the PPG or Gforce tranny. We're looking at options on a Billet Bell Housing if we went with the Gforce. Can anyone chime in to let us know that's it's worth to purchase? Let me know guys...

 

im not sure that ppg offers a billit bell housing, but i heard of a case brace. Im in the same boat right now, trying to figure out between those 2 and a liberty. I heard you can have the factory one welded up, but i dunno what that all involves

 

If you go PPG there is no need for the billet, it comes with the case brace and so far I haven't heard of anyone having housing failures.

PPG

 

can anyone chime in on info on the case brace? And what are people doing for the gforce?

 

Don't speak too fast lol.

I heard that the liberty billet housing can be machined to fit? Can anyone confirm this?

 

I don't think you'd need to machine a liberty case to run a PPG transmission, but I don't see a need for that. Of all the people that I've seen run a PPG box, I don't think it's having a problem breaking the oiling port that feeds oil to the bearing.

Anywho, a stock case and liberty case should be VERY similiar. You may have to machine where the PPG collar goes to make it fit but I'm sure it'll be very minimal.

 

The PPG B series set comes with a lower brace that way you don't need the billet bell housing... so far so good and the stock cases holding up!!!

I have 47 passes on my H series PPG set and still shifts like butter! I took it apart at 25 passes and it looked like it was never ran!

 

GFORCE is working on a braced design for there trans so they told us.Called them today to find out more about it but had to leave a message.We have to pick one up we had repaired this week for one car going to imstar so ill ask when we go.

 

The PPG will go right into the billet, so if you want both that will do as well. I will eventually have it, now I just have a case filled with hopes and dreams

 

the ppg will not go into the billet case without machining the bellhousing to fit the lower cuff... with that being said, i CAN say that the lower cuff on the PPG will not be the "end all" for case failures....and u will find out soon enough why....

 

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yea very true.

 

Liberty Bellhousing

 

i ssen one of those bell housing the other day! unblelievable! I want one.

 

i know more than one person that has broken multiple stock inner housings with the ppg lower gear stack brace.... so its not the end all.

.... and no, i dont belive in the hype of buying brand new stock bellhousings. its not the answer, its the excuse.

 

Just like anything in this world. You don't know what a used part has been through. It's an obvious weak link in the bellhousing. Start off with a used one that's been stressed for god knows how many miles, it only makes sense that it might not last as long as a new one that hasn't been stressed. It's a chance you take with used parts.

 

I agree with you Dave, new stock bell housings are casted and we all know that the castings for those tranny cases from Honda are not 100%. They all have small hair line cracks to begin with, it obviously wasn't designed for these Dog Box transmissions.

Couldn't argue with you there bro, you never know what these cases have been thru before using it in these extreme applications.

 

the only bad thing i have to say about the billet bellhousing is the added weight, haha.

 

I've had a bunch of people ask me how I polished the stock case up so well

I just laugh and tell them McGuires.

 

haha, same here. i spent the time to sand down the case cover and polish that as well...will never do that again.

 

Ummm I think he was referring to the way the billet case looks

 

i know, and i sanded down other half of it so they didnt contrast so much...

 

I decided last minute not to sand/polish/buff the other half of the case. Mine looks VERY dirty on one side. I told one guy I wanted to do a 50/50 comparision of before polishing and after. I think he believed me.

Oh well.

I heard a couple companies were looking to build billet cases, but I think those ideas went down the drain...