ok so made a nice hole in my block today so now im looking for new a motor i called ylm and they have a d15 vtec for $450 and a d16 non vtec for $450 ....So heres my ? i know u can no longer bar jdm motor but does that go for all of them is a d15 vtec a motor i can bar or pass smog ..... Ok no the other thing is im not going to be runing obd1 becuase i dont have the money right now to get all that is need to run vtec so should i just get the d16 and swap on my zc vtec head later ? So if u can help me out i plan on getting one or the other this friday thanks

 

i don't live in cali, but i would venture to say that a jdm engine, is a jdm engine, sohc or dohc. why not just hit up the local junk yard and pick something up? or even try and find one that doesn't cost 450 bucks. i've seen engines go for way less in the market place.

 

can some one from cail help lol cause i know u can bar a zc non vtec

 

what was wrong with my response?

 

call your local ref from what i have heard it varies from ref to ref. There was a huge thread about not being able to swap a japanese spec motor and from word of mouth it will be all up to the ref station that you go to. 450 for a motor seems a lot to me especially if it does not have a trans

 

Replacement Engines
Entire engines can be replacement parts. As with any other replacement part, the engine must be identical to the original. If the replacement block or engine is obtained without emissions equipment, all the equipment from the original engine must be installed on the replacement block.If the engine is not identical to the original then it is not a replacement part, instead it is considered an engine change.Engine changes are a modification that must meet certain requirements to be legal (please see "Engine Changes").

Japanese Replacement Engines
Used engines imported from Japan can be used as replacement engines as long as the engine being used has been identified as functionally identical to the original engine. Please refer to the engine importers catalogue to determine if a replacement engine is legal for installation in your vehicle.


Engine Changes
Engine changes are legal as long as the following requirements are met to ensure that the change does not increase pollution from the vehicle:

• The engine must be the same year or newer than the vehicle.
• The engine must be from the same type of vehicle (passenger car, light-duty truck, heavy-duty truck, etc.) based on gross vehicle weight.
• If the vehicle is a California certified vehicle then the engine must also be a California certified engine.
• All emissions control equipment must remain on the installed engine.

After an engine change, vehicles must first be inspected by a state referee station. The vehicle will be inspected to ensure that all the equipment required is in place, and vehicle will be emissions tested subject to the specifications of the installed engine.



with that being said no you cant bar a jdm engine unless that jdm engine was offered in your particular vehicle in the USA. there is a difference between a engine change and a replacement engine.

example:
1991 honda civic ex
zc sohc engine would be considered a replacement engine for a d16a6 since it is similar and therefore doesn't need to be bar'd.
d15b vtec is no se puede because it was never offered in a 90-91 civic ex and therefore is NOT a replacement engine and cannot be bar'd in this vehicle since it was never offered in a 90-91 civic ex

 

so here's a little side question. since a d16z6 came in a 92-95 civic ex, would that motor qualify under the "engine replacement" since the z6 did infact come in an ex body style, just not 90-91. it is from a newer car... just a thought

 

ok cool think for the info .... what would be best for money the d15 vtec or the d16

 

i'd go with a d16

 

d16z6 is your best bet to go legal for vtec. d15b is no se puede

 

Cool d16 it is

 

ok so i ended up geting a d15 vtec motor for 250 from a dude on here it came with almost evey thing but the dizzy and trans and ecu ....so i have a some ? can i use my stock si intake manifold cause the stock one is soo small lol and one other thing now the motor is obd1 and i have the full harness so as fair as wiring it up all i need from the harnnes is the wires for the vtec and the dizzy and (injectors if i want to use them right) ...and i far as wireing up the injectors i just run the red wire to each others and the rest back to the ecu any one have a link thanks

 

You can use your intake manifold, you can also stay OBD0 but it's suggested you get distributor and ecu jumpers but that won't slide with the ref.

 

ok so i can use my intake manifold on the vtec head and run vtec...yeah i know it won't pass ref but it was a good deal and as far as stay obd0 im going to be runing that tell i get my ecu dizzy and jumper

 

just hope that you dont get caught with that d15b vtec in your ride because it would never pass bar in your vehicle

 

the motor i have is not a jdm d15 vtec

 

Jumpers won't work if you're trying to bar it by the way, you need to fully convert it to OBD1

 

what d15 vtec motor did you purchase

 

its from a eg ...well if i did want to still bar it i have to get the full harness inside and out ?and one other thing as far as wireing up obd1 injectors i just run the red wire to each others and the rest back to the ecu