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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 07:41 AM
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Maybe somebody has experienced this before. I recently rebuilt the head on my stroked b16b (about 3000miles since rebuild) and had it tuned on s300. I have had no problems until last week when it "cutout" a little over 7k. It pulls strong through vtec @ 6k but falls on it's face after 7k.

Oil checks out ok and I changed plugs. No leaks and the fuel pressure is normal. It's rev limited by s300 @ 9200 and gets there quick....well did. I will check grounds at lunch. Anywhoo

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B16B: AEBS intake mani, blox 70mm TB
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 07:54 AM
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Sounds like it is hitting the cold rev limit. Are all of your temp sensors working?
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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call hondata
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 08:02 AM
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Ah, we do have the iacv shut down real low to stop the surging. Temp hasn't changed much here and I'm not throwing any codes but this may be it.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 08:03 AM
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That has nothing to do with it

Your rev limit doesn't just abnormally change.

Check your map.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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Maybe I was misleading and need to clarify a little. It will rev past 7k but falls on it's face or stumbles, almost like having a clogged converter, and stops pulling.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by KYSI
Maybe I was misleading and need to clarify a little. It will rev past 7k but falls on it's face or stumbles, almost like having a clogged converter, and stops pulling.
recheck the map..
check your plugs.. and make sure your not running lean up there.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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I experienced that problem once, when I was low on oil and VTEC stopped working.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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I experienced that problem once, when I was low on oil and VTEC stopped working.
That was my 1st thoughts but oil is O.K. and vtec engages @6k just fine. Can the map just change or fall out of parameters? It was just tuned a few weeks ago and the plugs look good.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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You have an S300-datalog and see what is going on when the motor experiences the problem. Diagnosis should not be too difficult.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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Yea gonna try that tonight and send it to my tuner.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Update: Just changed oil and found a 10mm bolt attached to my magnetic drain plug High cam ti retainer gone into spring.....Pics later.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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When oil is low I often experience this, check out the latest 2010 bmw z4.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 04:22 AM
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Replaced 1 valve seal, 1 retainer and 2 keepers. Started up great then we slipped and put a cut in the timing belt. Got to late to go any further. Will have picks of the retainer as soon as they come off the camera.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 04:44 AM
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whoa..
Your saying .. what?

I dont follow .. you said you have a 10mm bolt in your oil pan..
And now you dont have a retainer or keep and your valve didn't destory your motor??

umm what?
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 05:08 AM
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Here ya go. Valve didn't drop! I believe in miracles
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 05:40 AM
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wow..

Jesus loves you.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 05:40 AM
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he so loves you.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ALL M0T0R
wow..

Jesus loves you.
It's mutual....Now I got to borrow a titanium magnet
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 05:53 AM
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It's mutual....Now I got to borrow a titanium magnet
Yes, he does loves you and your engine.

Let me know when you find that ti magnet.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 08:51 AM
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Wow!!! U r extremely blessed...
But could this have been the source of the problem you just explained???
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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wow
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by EK9 CTR
Wow!!! U r extremely blessed...
But could this have been the source of the problem you just explained???
Yep..Valve float. Max lash
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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Lucky you. How did the other retainers look?
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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Looked great. I "think" what happened was when lash was being set 1 just didn't get tightened enough and vibrated loose.
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