I JUST CANT DECIDE ON WHAT EMS I SHOULD GET THAT IS IN THE 250 DOLLAR RANGE AND WHICH ONE IS BEST AND USER FREINDLY?

 

neptune or ectune will be your best options

 

neptune, ectune, hondata would all be better choices!

 

So which one is best for that 250 dollar price range.

 

Crome - 150
NepTune - 175 (150 if you buy Demon hardware at the same time)
eCtune - 199

Hardware will vary depending where you get it from. You're probably not going to find hardware and software for 250 total unless you find a used ostrich for dirt cheap.

 

so which ems is the best from those 3 and I know my tuner knows how to tune on crome but i don't know about neptune or ectune either

 

Eliminate Crome from your list, and choose one of the others..

 

Ok how about neptune then and is it user freindly?

 

It is pretty user friendly. Check out the NepTune RTP software for free. www.HRTuning.com/software/

 

crome is outdated, not updated and obsolete

NepTune and eCtune carry monthly updates and have the best Teams for support.

 

theres nothing wrong with crome pro. even the free crome. all you need is the ostrich and burner. but the other programs are good too. i thought i saw recently on the pgmfi.org forum that cui is going to be putting out monthly updates/changes with crome at the end of every month but who knows. i have to say the support of other companies is very nice.

 

There was something posted to that effect a long time ago and he didn't follow through. I've not seen anything remotely recent saying anything of the like or updates, for that matter, to show that it's true.

 

yea maybe the date wasnt that recent. the quick support from you guys is nice.

 

Your tuner should have no problem tuning Neptune, and you will not find better customer support.

 

I have heard that at least a 100 times in the past few years. It never seems to happen.

 

hmm, so i guess when you pull 17* from the map and it doesnt run any different tells me that there is nothing wrong...lol. One time error? maybe. But what if that happened while tuning an engine that really needed to pull timing or it would blow up? If you dont trust the management you are using, NEVER use it on someones car who is paying for your expertise.

for roughly the same price, you can get updated, sophisticated management and REAL support.

the answer is clear. I think Cui still has people waiting for their strings from a couple years ago lol.

 

ectune.

 

AEM EMS

 

Thanks guys for all the help I don't know if im going to go with neptune or ectune depending on if my tuner can tune on these programs

 

Would you guys mind detailing exactly what is better about Neptune/ECTune over Crome? I have Crome free on my laptop at present, been having a look at it for when I install my ITBs, and with the Pro license it seems to offer everything I need. What will one of the two aforementioned programs offer over Crome Pro?

 

First, these are all ROM editing software, not EMS's.

All the ROM editing software available can build fuel and ignition tables, and get the car running, and running well.

I just made the switch from CROME to eCtune, and the layout, usability, and performance of eCtune is much better. Specifically (and this is only pertinent to my all-motor application) the datalogging function is more streamlined, the software can allow for serial logging of wideband O2 (basically you do not need to wire in the 0-5v out from your WB into a PIN on the Honda ECU, you can plug in the serial cable (or serial-usb cable) and eCtune can detect the signal for most WB applications), the MAP trace options are better, the base ignition offsets are user selectable, there are no intermittent connection errors, and my favorite - there is a dedicated forum for software and hardware support that the developer actually posts in daily.

The advantages are even greater when dealing with an FI application. eCtune offers electronic boost control and subsequently boost-by-gear.

There are more advantages than the ones I listed, these are just the ones that stand out to me.

I have also heard great things about Neptune. I think you will be very pleased with either ROM editors.

 

I just installed a Neptune RTP on a swapped hatch as my first tuning project (done entirely myself). I built a base map, uploaded it and had the car idling fine in a couple of minutes. Could not have been any easier.

 

cool thanks guys I I'm going to go with ectune now especially that it has boost by gear it's a little more expensive but I guess it's worth it

 

NepTune has boost by gear so I hope that's not the only reason.

 

maybe the support for neptune is better than ectune