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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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Ok i lowered my honda accord a couple months ago with some tein type s springs. I got a dropzone camber kit to correct the camber in the front( rear didnt need it) and i cant get the tires to stop wearing on the inner portion. Ive tooken it to a shop to get it aligned and they screwed it up more than the way i had it. I replaced upper and lower ball joints when i got the car. And i got the Toe set pretty close. All you do to set toe is messure the back tires and adjust the front to match correct? Or is there a different distance between the wheels up front? I dont know but ive gone through 2 sets of front tires already and im ready to get this solved. I was thinking that maybe the camber kit is slipping. Ill take pics either today or tommorrow and post them of the camber kit installed so you guys and see what im talking about. Untill then any help would be great. Thanks Mekal
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 07:45 AM
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when lowering a car it will never get correct alignment specs...they will always be off even with a camber kit...how low did you drop it?...o yea you cant measure toe by your self you need the align rack/hoist because there is specs that you need to go off of that is shown on the computer
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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Have the car properly aligned (I suggest a laser alignment) and the toe 0'd out. Make sure to get a computer printout of before / after. My local Honda dealer did an alignment for $100 with custom specs for me.
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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be sure you're not mistaking camber wear for toe wear. this is a common mistake at many levels of expertise.

typically camber wear is a gradual "fade" across the full tread width. toe wear from lowering is often on the inner 2 inches of the tire, and can wear down to belts very quickly as you may now know.

hope this is helpful. and, like TheMuffinMan did it's worth it to have the dealer align it for a little extra. you'll make it up in tire replacement savings!
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mekal
Ok i lowered my honda accord a couple months ago with some tein type s springs. I got a dropzone camber kit to correct the camber in the front( rear didnt need it) and i cant get the tires to stop wearing on the inner portion. Ive tooken it to a shop to get it aligned and they screwed it up more than the way i had it. I replaced upper and lower ball joints when i got the car. And i got the Toe set pretty close. All you do to set toe is messure the back tires and adjust the front to match correct? Or is there a different distance between the wheels up front? I dont know but ive gone through 2 sets of front tires already and im ready to get this solved. I was thinking that maybe the camber kit is slipping. Ill take pics either today or tommorrow and post them of the camber kit installed so you guys and see what im talking about. Untill then any help would be great. Thanks Mekal
Because you dropped the chassis, you've effectively changed the range the tires tilt when the suspension deflects.
As you lower the suspension the difference in the control arm arc radius tilt the wheel in; thus the inner tread wear. Some people like this; the theory being that the loaded (outboard) tire bites better in a turn. The drawback (as you've seem) is accelerated tire wear.

You may indeed find a precice alignment will do the trick. You may (however) have to add between 1/2 to 1 degree positive (+) camber to control wear.

Whatever you do will be a compromise. To do it right would require relocating pivot points, control arm lengths and other consideations.

Good Luck

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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by hondamark35
be sure you're not mistaking camber wear for toe wear. this is a common mistake at many levels of expertise.

typically camber wear is a gradual "fade" across the full tread width. toe wear from lowering is often on the inner 2 inches of the tire, and can wear down to belts very quickly as you may now know.

hope this is helpful. and, like TheMuffinMan did it's worth it to have the dealer align it for a little extra. you'll make it up in tire replacement savings!
+1. This is an excellent answer. Did you do this yet?
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