Hey, I hope you see this RonJ@HT. I finally had the opporttunity to check to see if I am getting spark and I AM GETTING SPARK. A buddy of mine and I have found that it cranks a couple times and then seems to "wined out". The starter continues to wind, but the motor or whatever does not. Is that normal? PLEASE HELP!!!

Here's my previous post if you dont remember:

I'm honestly not sure if anyone's gonna be able to help me because even some of the well respected "Honda guru's" that live in my area can't figure it out, but I figured I'd try. Maybe by some miracle someone else has had this same problem and will be able to help me fix it or simply offer a little advice. I deffinetly don't consider myself as knowledgable about Honda's as I would like to be so there's deffinetly a possibility that I'm not seeing something,

Here's what I'm working with- I have a 94 Civic EX coupe. It originally cma with a D16Z6 and I just dropped in an obd2 B18C. I am using a obd1 p72 and used the obd1 harness that came in the car and just spliced whatever pugs I needed to like the alternator and the injectors. I am also using the PasswordJDM jumper harness for the distributor.

I DID GET IT RUNNING and got check engine light codes-4(crankshaft position sensor), 7(TPS), and 41(heated O2 sensor heater). I think I've got codes 7 and 41 taken care of, but in an attempt to fix code 4 I went ahead and traded my obd2 distributor with a friend for his obd1(because I was told this would fix it). Well, somehow in the simple process of me taking off the obd2 and bolting on the obd1, something happend and now it wont start. I immediatly thought it was a bad obd1 distributor so I swapped back and put the obd2 back on and it still wont start.

When I turn the key, I can hear what sounds like the distributor "winding", but I'm not getting the actual "cranking" sound. I thought maybe I got the ignition wires mixed up so like an idiot I went off Hanes manual for the firing order and it was ofcourse wrong. So, then when I went to start it, something "popped". Not really sure what it was, but hopefully it wasn't anything major. I did finally get the wires all sorted out and on in the right order thanks to Rywire.com, but I'm still having the same problems. I've checked all my fuses and even had the started tested at the local Autozone and it checked out okay,

I am at a loss and cannot understand why it won't start now. Has anyone else had this problem or could tell me where to start? PLEASE HELP!!!

 

Does the fuel pump prime for 2 seconds when the key is turned to ON(II)? Can you push start the car?

Are the teeth of the starter gear that contacts the flywheel damaged? Are the flywheel teeth damaged?

 

the fuel pump DOES prime when the key is turned to ON.
the teeth on the starter are all there and look ok.
from what i can see on the flywheel with the starter off, the teeth on that are ok as well.
i can deffinetly try and push start it here in the next couple days.

by the way, do you have an email or anything i could get ahold of you at that way i dont have to keep posting the same problem over and over and hope that you'll come across it?

thanks again for all you help.

 

Click on RonJ's name and send him a private message.

 

tried that, i dont think he recieves private messages.

 

Hey RonJ@HT, like I had said before, I'm deffinetly not as knowledgeable about Honda's as I would like to be, but is this right?

Am I wrong or does it apear that my timing is off? Sorry its so big, i forgot how to post em smaller.

 

the starter works 2 ways to make your flywheel spin and turn your engine over. the starter spins and a solenoid in the starter pushes the rods with the teeth out towards the flywheels which makes the flywheel spin. seems like the starter is working which is why you hear it spinning but the solenoid is not which is why you only hear the starter and the engine doesnt turn over.

like ronj@ht said just try push starting it. if it turns on is because deffinately the starter needs to be replaced.

 

The mechanical timing looks off to me as well, but keep turning the crank pulley counterclockwise to see whether you can perfectly achieve simultaneous TDC1 positioning of the cam and crank (see diagram below).

 

Did you put a rotor in? One time I threw in a new dizzy and forgot the rotor, the car didnt turn on lol.

 

thanks everyone for all the feedback, i got it running! dont ask me how, but my timing got off. i got that all straightend out and it fired right up.

the weird thing is now im not getting a CEL #4 (crankshaft position sensor), gut i am still getting CEL #7 (TPS) and CEL #41 (o2 sensor, heater sensor). any thoughts?

I am running a skunk2 intake manifold and a test pipe. are these things somehow causing it?