4ws question
I have a h23 block that i'm bolting a f22 trans to. If i was told correct everythiong should bolt up no prolem. Anyways I am trying to retain the 4ws capabilities, so what can I do (if there is even a way) to adjust the f22 trans to keep this option. Note that I have no idea how 4ws is hooked up whether it is mostly electronical or physical parts.
Another question is that how is the 4ws hooked up? I would think it all connects in some way with the steering column and electrical, yet I have heard it doing partly with the transmission?
As always thanks for the inputs.
Another question is that how is the 4ws hooked up? I would think it all connects in some way with the steering column and electrical, yet I have heard it doing partly with the transmission?
As always thanks for the inputs.
Nevermind pretty much found it in another forum. Here it is if anyone is curious.
"Okay guys, here's the description from the 4th gen owner's manual:
"...As inputs, the 4WS system uses a vehicle speed sensor and a sensor to measure how far the front wheels are turned.
"The electronic control unit for the 4WS system uses these inputs to determine which direction to steer the rear wheels, and at what angle. Depending on vehicle speed and the angle of the front wheels, the rear wheels will be countersteered (steered in the opposite direction of the front wheels) or same-steered.
"The 4WS electronic control unit drives an electric motor built into th erear steering box. Sensors for the rear wheels angle and speed provide feedback. The electronic control unit uses the feedback to compare the actual rear wheel angle to the desired angle.
"When the driver turns the front wheels with the car traveleing less that 18mph, the rear wheels are countersteered. The angle of countersteer increases as the angle of the front wheels increases, to a maximum countersteer angle of six degrees. This improves response when parallel parking or making sharp turns.
"Above 18mph, the rear wheels are same-steered as the driver begins to turn the steering wheel. The rear wheel angle for any given steering wheel angle is not fixed; it increases as vehicle speed increases. This improves response in lane-changing maneuvers.
"As the driver continues to turn the steering wheel, the rear wheels are steered back to the straight-ahead position and then to countersteer mode. As with same-steer, the angle o fcountersteer varies with vehicle speed; increasing and then decreasing as the speed rises. This gives improved handling in low, medium and high-speed curves.
"The 4WS system's electronic control unit monitors the sensors whenever the ignition is ON. If it detects a problem anywhere in the system, it lights the 4WS indicator on the instrument panel and turns the system off. With the system off, the rear wheels remain pointed straight ahead. Your car will then drive like a conventional car without 4WS."
I don't know if it's different for 3rd gens.
The 5th gen 4WS was only available in Japan."
"Okay guys, here's the description from the 4th gen owner's manual:
"...As inputs, the 4WS system uses a vehicle speed sensor and a sensor to measure how far the front wheels are turned.
"The electronic control unit for the 4WS system uses these inputs to determine which direction to steer the rear wheels, and at what angle. Depending on vehicle speed and the angle of the front wheels, the rear wheels will be countersteered (steered in the opposite direction of the front wheels) or same-steered.
"The 4WS electronic control unit drives an electric motor built into th erear steering box. Sensors for the rear wheels angle and speed provide feedback. The electronic control unit uses the feedback to compare the actual rear wheel angle to the desired angle.
"When the driver turns the front wheels with the car traveleing less that 18mph, the rear wheels are countersteered. The angle of countersteer increases as the angle of the front wheels increases, to a maximum countersteer angle of six degrees. This improves response when parallel parking or making sharp turns.
"Above 18mph, the rear wheels are same-steered as the driver begins to turn the steering wheel. The rear wheel angle for any given steering wheel angle is not fixed; it increases as vehicle speed increases. This improves response in lane-changing maneuvers.
"As the driver continues to turn the steering wheel, the rear wheels are steered back to the straight-ahead position and then to countersteer mode. As with same-steer, the angle o fcountersteer varies with vehicle speed; increasing and then decreasing as the speed rises. This gives improved handling in low, medium and high-speed curves.
"The 4WS system's electronic control unit monitors the sensors whenever the ignition is ON. If it detects a problem anywhere in the system, it lights the 4WS indicator on the instrument panel and turns the system off. With the system off, the rear wheels remain pointed straight ahead. Your car will then drive like a conventional car without 4WS."
I don't know if it's different for 3rd gens.
The 5th gen 4WS was only available in Japan."
Last edited by belac; Aug 18, 2009 at 09:23 AM.
The 4WS is entirely independent from the engine and transmission.
You can swap H23, H22, F22 all without any issues and will never affect the 4WS. It has a separate ECU.
Same would be true with 5gen 4WS.
You can swap H23, H22, F22 all without any issues and will never affect the 4WS. It has a separate ECU.
Same would be true with 5gen 4WS.
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