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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 06:40 AM
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i had the machine shop check my blocks deck for flatness while it was getting bored, they said its fine, but i noticed a few scratches on the deck/cyl that look like something was lightly drug across the deck at some point in its life. i used a roloc disk on the entire deck and you can barely catch your nail on the scratches but i wondered if the OEM head gasket alone will be enough to conform or fill in any small scratches , does any one know if copper spray or indian head would help even more then using the gasket alone? or must teh OEM gaskets be installed dry? thanks guys
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 07:08 AM
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you used a roloc disk on the deck? WTF?
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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Default Re: ok to use copper spray or indian head?

A light coating of copper spray is fine, and will help ensure a complete seal.

And out of curiosity, what kind of Roloc did you use?
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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Default Re: ok to use copper spray or indian head?

Originally Posted by sgnlab
you used a roloc disk on the deck? WTF?
yeah i always use a light roloc disk to clean the surface. i dont grind into it or gouge it lol just clean off any surface debris.

Originally Posted by Padawan
A light coating of copper spray is fine, and will help ensure a complete seal.

And out of curiosity, what kind of Roloc did you use?
so its ok to spray both sides of the gasket ? or should i just spray the deck side ? thanks guys oh and like i stated above i always use teh brown 3m disk and just go over it real light to clean off any surface debris.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 07:22 AM
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I wouldnt use copper spray on a MLS gasket. The main thing is that your surfaces are flat and smooth because MLS gaskets are pretty picky about that.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Padawan
A light coating of copper spray is fine, and will help ensure a complete seal.

And out of curiosity, what kind of Roloc did you use?
Originally Posted by Lightning Orders
I wouldnt use copper spray on a MLS gasket. The main thing is that your surfaces are flat and smooth because MLS gaskets are pretty picky about that.
so confusing
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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Default Re: ok to use copper spray or indian head?

We have used copper gasket spray on a bunch of oem mls gaskets, never a problem.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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I have used copper spray and have not had any issues. I wipe the surfaces with acetone first.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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Default Re: ok to use copper spray or indian head?

Forgive my ignorance, but what is "indian head"?
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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Default Re: ok to use copper spray or indian head?

It's a brand of gasket sealant
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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I just use prep solv and nothing else make sure its clean and just torque the head down. Nothing inbetween. Imagine this 1 thou can screw up the seal on the head gasket imagine how good you are at spraying a coat of copper seal!
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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Default Re: ok to use copper spray or indian head?

Originally Posted by boosted91crx
It's a brand of gasket sealant
Oh yeah, I remember seeing that stuff one time.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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I'd spend a few bucks for a cleanup on the surface and call it a day. Roloc is not for cleaning block and head surfaces.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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A roloc disk on an aluminum gasket mating surface is a huge no no.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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i went and got the copper spray today, thanks for all the input
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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Default Re: ok to use copper spray or indian head?

Originally Posted by 4piston
I'd spend a few bucks for a cleanup on the surface and call it a day. Roloc is not for cleaning block and head surfaces.
i already had it to the machine shop to get checked and bored they said the deck was fine and didnt need touched, however i see a few small scratches now that its back home. so to be extra safe i figured some copper spray would assure they get filled. just wasnt sure if the OEM style HG was ok to spray. i know composite head gaskets are much better at filling it scratches.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Default Re: ok to use copper spray or indian head?

I use copper spray for every head gasket i use...iv never had a problem turbo, or na!
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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Default Re: ok to use copper spray or indian head?

how much of a coat do you guys do? enough that you can only see copper and no black? 1 or 2 coats ect?
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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Default Re: ok to use copper spray or indian head?

ive used light roloc discs on heads and blocks never had problems. some people think its stupid but they prob color cordinate their panties too.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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Default Re: ok to use copper spray or indian head?

When you said roloc disc my mind went to the 36grit disc I use to prep steel for welding.

I think a lot of us thought the same.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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Default Re: ok to use copper spray or indian head?

We use these to clean up aluminum surfaces( the green one )



We also use copper spray and never had an issue, I talk to Earl before and he said it was just reinsurance.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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Default Re: ok to use copper spray or indian head?

i use copper spray on turbo gaskets and exhaust manifold gaskets sometimes. i have noticed no difference using it on a head gaskets other than it takes a lot longer to clean everything the next time you pull the head off
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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Default Re: ok to use copper spray or indian head?

Originally Posted by 1992Si
When you said roloc disc my mind went to the 36grit disc I use to prep steel for welding.

I think a lot of us thought the same.
haha no not that
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo-charged
i use copper spray on turbo gaskets and exhaust manifold gaskets sometimes. i have noticed no difference using it on a head gaskets other than it takes a lot longer to clean everything the next time you pull the head off
well my main concern is a few scratches i see. had i seen non i would just stuck it on dry like i have always done. but i was told copper is great for filling in small scratches.
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