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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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Default IFO FWD class: wheelie bars and one piece OK for n/a cars???

What do you all think?

We're getting ready to update the website with new class additions. One rule we're considering for the FWD class is one piece front ends and wheelie bars allowed for naturally aspirated vehicles. As of now, the only class these type cars can compete in are bracket or Outlaw (anything goes). Would all you IFO FWD regulars mind if "pro" type all motor cars compete in the FWD class? The rule addition would be worded, "One piece front ends, wheelie bars, and straight axles prohibited for forced induction applications, but allowed for naturally aspirated."

An all motor car has never placed, or even competed (that i can remember) in the FWD class. Very very few "pro" all motor cars race at IFO, actually only 2 that I can remember (one in Tucson, another at Columbus) but I'd like them to have a class other than bracket or Outlaw IF one shows up. They can't race in All Motor since wheelie bars and one piece are prohibited in that class.

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Now that you have a street all motor class, this sounds like an excellent idea. I think some massaging of the street rules would be necessary to make sure there is a dividing line between the two all motor classes.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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I think you're misunderstanding. One piece front ends and wheelie bars still prohibited in All Motor Pro. Instead, would be OK for FWD Quick 8 in 2010 for n/a cars only.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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I think it would be a good addition and bring a nice mix into things.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GSRcaucAZN78
I think you're misunderstanding. One piece front ends and wheelie bars still prohibited in All Motor Pro. Instead, would be OK for FWD Quick 8 in 2010 for n/a cars only.
got ya. let the all motor cars with 1-piece and wheelie bars into the FWD class along with the turbo cars? sounds like a fair enough deal.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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got ya. let the all motor cars with 1-piece and wheelie bars into the FWD class along with the turbo cars? sounds like a fair enough deal.
Yes, exactly.

well, like I said it's not really a big deal as I've only seen two ever register at an IFO, but would still like to include them for that rare case. Kind of like the n20 maxima on slicks at the KC race last May, very rare, but should definitely be OK for the class even though V6.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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im fine with it.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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I like the idea-look at PBIR event would of been sick to allow those cars to runs sfwd


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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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I don't get why those things can't be run in the All Motor Pro class. Aftermarket front ends, alcohol, lexan, fuel cells, etc...just no pro cars. Only cars that are kinda pro, kinda not really street.

Either way, thank you for the consideration and for even having a place to race. I'll be there on the 30th in my EVO.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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Sounds good to me!
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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Good idea
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 4piston
I don't get why those things can't be run in the All Motor Pro class. Aftermarket front ends, alcohol, lexan, fuel cells, etc...just no pro cars. Only cars that are kinda pro, kinda not really street.
Because there are 50 times more "kinda" pro cars than true pro cars that race IFO... classes are catered to the majority.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 04:21 AM
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I think it sounds good to me and I know some of the All Motor cars need a class. I think they would be great competition for some of the faster SFWD cars.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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That would be cool to watch.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Default Re: IFO FWD class: wheelie bars and one piece OK for n/a cars???

so your saying that the AMP class are going to be allowed to run wheelie bars?

i would love to put wheelie bars on my car
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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so your saying that the AMP class are going to be allowed to run wheelie bars?

i would love to put wheelie bars on my car
NO!

Again, this is for the FWD class, NOT amp. If you are all motor and run in the FWD class (sfwd) you may run wheelie bars.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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Sounds good, the more the better in my opinion !!!
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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I like it! No Problem here!
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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More cars in the field, more racing.. hell ya!
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by V-SPEC 1
More cars in the field, more racing.. hell ya!

when u going to start racing????
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 07:39 AM
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Default Re: IFO FWD class: wheelie bars and one piece OK for n/a cars???

i think it would be fine, i personally don't like watching a full out race chassis racing against a full chassis sportsman car.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SPOOLINmatt
i think it would be fine, i personally don't like watching a full out race chassis racing against a full chassis sportsman car.
Yes, full chassis against sportsman, but the full chassis will be all motor. Either way, keeping it a FWD ONLY class.

Again, there have only ever been 2 pro AM cars show up to an IFO after 80+ events since 2001, but still want to make this rule addition for that rare case one does show up.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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Default Re: IFO FWD class: wheelie bars and one piece OK for n/a cars???

Originally Posted by GSRcaucAZN78
Yes, full chassis against sportsman, but the full chassis will be all motor. Either way, keeping it a FWD ONLY class.

Again, there have only ever been 2 pro AM cars show up to an IFO after 80+ events since 2001, but still want to make this rule addition for that rare case one does show up.

well yeah i understand its all motor only and FWD only but theres a lot of spectators out there that don't know all of that info.

I just know that when one of those cars do show up, the cars that are typically in the class will instantly be **** on by that fwd, wheelie bar, modified front end race car.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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Default Re: IFO FWD class: wheelie bars and one piece OK for n/a cars???

Originally Posted by SPOOLINmatt
well yeah i understand its all motor only and FWD only but theres a lot of spectators out there that don't know all of that info.

I just know that when one of those cars do show up, the cars that are typically in the class will instantly be **** on by that fwd, wheelie bar, modified front end race car.
Idk about that, unless a car like CM or Bisi shows up and busts mid 9's all day i dont see it happening, even then alot of SFWD cars at ifo are running 9's these days and would put on a good show. From a spectators view, seeing an all out race car vs. a "street" style car in a close race would be awesome to see.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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i know what you are saying...but thats just what i think. It might be exciting but what im saying is.

I wouldn't want to see a Funny Car race a Dragster..., they are close in speed butjust aren't designed the same so one has a lot of advantage over the other.

Cliff will do whatever he thinks from his experience is necessary to bring more people in so it doesnt matter.
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